How to fix the br of the ju288C

That’s the main reason why its bad for German teams/win rates, and why teams with disproportionately-high bomber compositions are bad for the game in general.

Well they have the FW-190 D-13, but they could always add more if you feel that that is insufficient. Even if they didn’t have a prop premium which was brain dead to play, the higher tier premiums are still effective for grinding out the German aviation tree.

My argument was simply that moving the JU-288 up wouldn’t “shift the problem up” as you put it, as was demonstrated by the Vautor nerfs. US players might be able to take out JU 288Cs if they played strike aircraft, but why would they when strike aircraft do not compete as well against fighters? The JU 288Cs are guaranteed kills for fighters regardless of when the other team kills them.

I don’t even know how to respond to this. I mean sure… if Gaijin wants to make money with premiums that break the matchmaker and have an horribly unbalanced game, then I guess this is their best option. It’s definitely not good for the players who want to have a fun time in German/Italian fighters in that BR range.

It doesn’t need to be blamed on stupidity, it’s more likely that it is just not a priority as there are many other areas of the game that require more immediate attention.

Doesn’t need to be restricted to a .3 increase, but that would be a good start. They could move it up more if they are still a problem. Even if the fighters do better, I don’t think that alone is grounds to move them up, if you truly believe that US planes are better already.

I don’t quote to misrepresent you and I am a native English speaker. I quote so that it is clear what it is precisely that I am responding to.

Nobody said that. Imho this was clear enough:

No additional value is the polite form of not being interested.

Even if someone appears to be annoying, i reply in a polite form (and this takes time and from my pov i waste time here) as this one of my own minimum requirements for conversations.

I am not interested in any further exchanges, even quoting is part of being involved. Thx for understanding!

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Exactly the Ju-288 should more or less stay at its current BR more or less but 7.0 is way to high since it would encounter stuff like the Horten 229 and stufff which are way faster so good reply from you @x_Shini

While true the Horton is propably the worst example of a dangerous air competitive jet😂

Statcards are known for being completely wrong. For starters, climb rate and max alt are just flat out wrong. Secondly, turn rate is done with a full fuel load and in a sustained turn at a non-disclosed speed. Third, where is the energy fighting part? Fourth, I don’t judge speed based off a single point with no further reference.

For example, on paper the Bf 109 G-2 (listed top speed: 682kph@6500m) is much faster than the J2M2 (listed top speed: 596kph@5500m). But if you plot out a graph of their top speeds varying with altitude, you find that actually, the J2M2 is faster at sea level (537kph vs 554kph) and its advantage only grows until the 1st supercharger gear starts losing power.
And while at 6km you have a variety of options, for example diving away for teammates and to make your pursuer waste all their altitude, you don’t have such luxuries when you’re already low, and a speed advantage down here is deadly.

As for turn rates, let’s look at two very one-sided examples:

The Ki-43-1 Hayabusa has a listed turn time of 14 seconds (in reality you can go into the single digits if a few conditions are met). The Spitfire LF Mk9 has a listed turn time of 14.8 seconds. Now I don’t know about you, but there is no world in which ANY spitfire is gonna come close to keeping up with a Ki-43-1 the moment the pilot puts his finger on the S key, and certainly not within 0.8s of him. Even much lighter aircraft like I-16s can’t either.

How about the legendary A6M Zero? The A6M3 Mod22 Ko is a good variant, you get the earlier longer wing (unlike the A6M5s) and the longer Type 99 Model 2 cannons. Listed turn time? 15.5 seconds. Similarly, there is no world in which any Spitfire is gonna keep up with a Zero in a turnfight. The Zero can literally dance around the spitfire and make it look as clumsy and boaty as a P-47.

Statcards are irrelevant. I’ve even exceeded the max listed altitude in a few planes as well, namely in the aforementioned Ki-43-1 by a full kilometer while the J2M5 barely goes above 10km when its max listed altitude is 11500m. I’ve never tested this, but I’m pretty sure top speeds are wrong too, maybe I’ll have to test that.

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