Winrate is already too low for 6.0. Last time I checked it was around 38% WR.
You’re not a staff member so you don’t know the win rate.
And win rate is mostly to skill of the team.
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lol
well that and the screwed matchmaking with 4 ju 288cs in one team and the others being full of fighters in a 7 vs 7
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honestly he doesnt he has a lot of valid points
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"win rate is mostly to skill of the team’ is a valid point when it comes to Ju’s?
He plays the game a lot. He obviously should know how that BR range is purely JU’s territory and there’s not much you can do if you get them in your team.
That’s not to mention half of those Ju’s are bots.
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Ignoring the bots if the ju 288c players, would play right they take can easily take out 1-2players in that part yeah skill issue, those that pnly bomb are the problem but that is part of their skill and not wanting to learn how to do it right
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Most are indeed bots. But even if not, there’s not much you can do. Ju-288 has not the loadout to influence any match in its favor. Just two good bomb drops or 8 weak ones…alot strike aircraft around its BR have much more strike capability to influence ticket bleed. Also air to air it can’t do alot vs. superprops.
Not to speak about that you can’t do ground attack runs in a 4 bomber + 2 fighter contellation, if the enemy team is fully stacked with fighters, often superior ones.
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Sorry dude - you Number “1” is not correct.
Part of the Ju 288 suggestion from 2014, proving that 2 x SC 2500 are possible.
And a lot of other German planes could carry them, including Ju 88…
Gaijin simply refuses to implement these actual (and historical) load outs due to a mix of “balance” and “reasons”.
Your number 2 is ok.
Even with 2 x SC 2500 there is no need for a BR increase. Why?
If we all agree that 288s are mainly used for basebombing in Air RB - the current 2 x SC 1800 kills already a base. There are just a handful of maps with “tank gatherings” like on Smolensk. But these bulk targets appear mid to late game - at this point of time most Ju 288s are already dead.
For Ground RB - Not my mode. But if i see a Pe 8 at 4.3 with FAB 5.000, why not a 6.0 Ju 288 with 2 SC 2500?
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Didn’t realize 2500 wasn’t that much of a size increase.
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At least give 1 2500KG bomb I need more firepower in ground
I think it might be better suited at 6.3. Purely because it is pretty fast and has a decent turret coverage compared to quite a few other BR6 bombers.
But yeah, with other bombers finally getting their full bomb load, like the Lancaster, i think the 288 should get its historic bomb load. I’d stick in a detailed bug report for it
Before the wing speed change sure.
But since it wing rips at 660kph… nah.
With the bigger bombs in GRB, might need to be done. I consider the Ju288C on a tightrope between 6.0/6.3. Could be either currently, but wouldnt take much to push it up
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2 x 2500kg bombs would hopefully bring more people to play it as cas plane instead of a bomber.
Instead of the 4x bombers per side max, make it 2x and put 2 on each side.
IE. At 6.0 Germany will be on both sides with a max of 2x JU288s.
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Create a poll - the 3.0 Ju 88 A-4 was able to carry it too. Much easier, less resistance as for Ju 288 as almost anybody has negative experiences with or against them. I mean the BR of the Ju 88 A-4 increased extremely fast without correct loadouts like 4 x SC 500 from 2.3 to 3.0 - so it would be more than fair to give it the SC 2500 at the same BR…
If you have issues with the SC 1800 - have in mind that they nerfed them regarding explosion/destruction radius. I remember that i killed in Air RB some years ago frequently 12, often 13 medium ai tanks on the Sicily map - with 2 drops within first 3 minutes on both assembling areas - and you got 300 points for each of them. Combined with a SL booster and antimech order you were able to get 250-270k SLs in under 4 minutes…
The JU-288 really is a bizarre plane in War Thunder. It single handedly made mid to high tier props almost uninhabitable.
It going to 7.0 to tango with jets is a… curiosity to say the least.
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Why? FAB5000 @Pe-8 is 4.3, the 12.000 lb bomb @Lancaster is 5.0 or something…so why do you think a 2500kg bomb warrants a BR of 6.3? It makes no sense. Also your speed argument, my Ju-288 rips wings at 640 km/h. Thats rather slow. A 4.7 Do-217 has a dive speed above 700 km/h. Even the 3.0 Ju-88 A-4 is faster in a dive. 288 is not really fast after the artificial wing rip nerf. A diving fighter 5-6 BR might even reach over 800 km/h in a dive… etc.
I guess its just psychological, community never really accepted the Ju-288C. Imagine, back then it was BR 5.3 with its real dive speed around 800 km/h and the bombs had a kill radius of over 40m. The tail gun was precise and it had self sealing tanks, which put out wing tank fires.
From this nothing is left, speed nerfed by almost 200 dive, fires burn it always down, bomb radius reduced, tailgun accuracy nerfed. BR was bumped already to 5.7 and later 6.0. It gets unfavorable matchmaking with just 2 fighters to make sure almost all matches are lost.
And still its not enough^^ As if a 6.0 bomber with just 2x large bombs isn’t pathetic enough. US have single engine strike aircraft with more lethal loadout options for GRB^^
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As I have already explained, the Ju288C is borderline 6.3 already, give it bigger bombs, I could very much see that already being what is needed to push it to 6.3.
Ju-288C is one of the fastest prop bombers in the game. The Lancaster has a top speed of 249kts, the Ju-288C 340kts. That is a massive speed advantage and is faster than every single prop in the british tree at the same BR, and faster than quite a few props.
You are also aware that the Lancaster has basically no turrets, at all. It has 2 MGs, that cover basically nothing, the Ju-288C has almost a perfect 360 degree coverage, with decent guns. I routinely see Ju-288C make it to target, Lancaster almost never make it too any, and if thye did, it was sheer luck
The fact this took that long to fix is insane. The number of times I saw Ju-288C surviving being set on fire 2 or 3 times, was rediculous, when the Lancaster is set on fire, it’s dead, no matter what.
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