How player skill with SPAA effects the CAS problem

Do I need to list all vehicles from every nation?

Wont change anything if you do it ngl
At some BRs its nearly impossible to kill you from there if your team has control of the middle part of the map,if they dont,you can be killed but its really hard if im already looking there since no one its spawning

Your entire premise, that this spot can be countered only by CAS, hinges now on four factors entirely outside of your control:

  • OTHER people will cover the E/F 5/6 area;
  • no one will spawn vehicle with HEAT shells or large enough HE shell;
  • no one will hit the gigantic muzzle brake of tanks you described;
  • no one will deny you line of sight with use of smoke shells

thats lot of luck involved in calling a position overpowered.

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I swear if i get that map at that a lower BR i can prove it

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Anything to back it up?

Even if you did, that will prove you can hold position that has both pros and cons against people of worse skill level than you, and even then it will still hinge on luck to some degree that no one will disable your gun barrel with lucky shot.

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But why would they need to think if they can just bomb the enemy that doesn’t have any chance to fight back?

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i will try to back it up with a video if i get the map as i said

It random sure but for the most part,the people you play against,they arent the smartest players tbh

with alltime average KPS for ground realistic being 0.609, if you manage to dominate team from any such position, its not due to said position being clearable only with CAS, but incompetence of players.

What would make you harder to kill?
A position where you camp their spawn and overwatch the middle part of the map where you can simply peek last second,shoot and retreat?Or being in an open field without cover?
Even if the average casual player isnt the smartest,if you are in an open field he would manage to kill you fairly easy

EDIT

This is the average AA player at lower BRs

I find these type of players quite often…
To not speak about the team mates who i guess they think youre an enemy


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IMO they should do proper tutorials on how to shoot planes

but were talking about if such position is clearable or not without help of CAS, not whenever having cover increases your chances of survival.

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Its pretty much a situational case…

If they cant get you normally with other tanks,they will bomb the heck out of you,if they can…its a rare thing to happen and then CAS will not be needed

theres no position on any map that requires CAS to clear. all of them can be cleared with tanks.

notice im not saying that it is as easy or as convenient to clear out such position with tanks instead of CAS.

but true position that can be cleared with only CAS doesnt exist. it cant exist. if it can be reached by tank, it can be cleared out by tank.

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As i said,its SITUATIONAL

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TF2 went wrong after bots rampage and Valve start update they anticheat when TF2 fans start petition “Save TF2”. I will buried the TF2 conversation because it has nothing do with the topic.

The bots weren’t the cause of the issue. The bots were a symptom of how VALVe treated TF2.

TO would be the start of something similar.

There is one guy with something like 20k death for 5k air kills in the BI. I guess it makes the BI completely balanced no?

If TO replaced GB why not. But as an addition, the comparison, as multiple people pointed out, doesn’t work.

“pointed out” you mean the people who know next to nothing about TF2 aside from the surface level issues? Yeah I really don’t think they know enough abt TF2 to weigh in on the effects of meet your match.

Trying to appeal to two completely different audiences with one product never goes well. TF2 learned it, Hollywood is learning it, heck lots of AAA games studios are slowly learning it to. Gajin might be smart enough to learn from their mistakes.