How player skill with SPAA effects the CAS problem

Exactly why we need SBMM so people can get segregated. Currently it’s up to luck only if you’re going to get a bunch of drones that have no idea or interest to learn how to play this game.

It’s also up to luck only if you’re going to get someone that has AA in his lineup, so he can protect you.

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but its important at top tier, which is coincidentally what this thread is about

when youre spamming arguments against TO you should specify you never touched top tier.
you might play only low tier, but the world doesnt revolve around you

the last time i conducted hours of intensive research, i came to the conclusion that KH-38 can also make movements. this may have changed though.

CAS haters are not unqualified.
however youre talking broadly about CAS, without playing top tier (which is where problem is big), so youre unqualified

My certain list keeps growing and includes at least 2 or 3 posters in this thread.

It’s just not worth the effort to reply to nonsense anymore.

;)

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This is not a thread about toptier, and it’s not really important after the addition of the SLM.

You may only play toptier, but the world doesn’t revolve around you.

We were talking about Fab-5000, not toptier AGMs.

“You disagree with me so you’re unqualified.”

-World’s most humble CAS hater

Is CAS an issue or not was visible on some sort of AAS event (cannot remember exact name).

CAS was avilable but you needed something like 1700 SP to even spawn a plane. So you needed to be really good on ground to collect enough SP to spawn a plane.

Gameplay was very immersive even though CAS was also very dangerous as a player which spawned it knew how to us it properly. But there were up to 3 planes for the whole game so it wasn’t game breaking but present enough to be as it should be, support.

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You’re the guy who has self admitted to being unable to beat wellingtons in corsairs and I-16s.

That is a perfect demonstrations of your level of qualification (you play GRB CAS because you cannot succeed at using planes in their natural environment and this is also why you think SPAA is OP).

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The 1.7s I killed in my Wellington atleast had the excuse that they had 10 hours in the game. The fact that someone like you can struggle to fight wellingtons is truly just pathetic.

In what universe do you think behaving like this makes anyone side with you.

Attempting to gaslight on a forum with screenshots evidencing YOUR actions do not work.

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French corsair being heavy is a funny one.

30% french corsair is equal to F4U-4B with 58% fuel.

I normally fly my F4U-4 with 78% because I like having enough fuel for 2 full Useful Actions Cycles and found it quite capable of dogfighting Bf109s.

Also since you ARE obsessed with “Skill issues”, I’d be more than happy to play a custom match standard duel against you with a Bf109F4 or F4U-4 or P-51/P-51C or G.55 Sotto 0 or Ki-61-I Hei. I’d prefer if both of us were using full-real controls, but I’d be willing to use Autotrim+Realistic vs your mouse aim.

The artificial restriction is choosing to only play tanks in a game that has always been about mixed vehicle combat. The person behind that airstrike isn’t doing anything unintended.

The same thing.

I’ve been playing more matches at top tier lately and the biggest issue is the fact that most players leave after 1-2 deaths. The matches end due to one team having no players left as much if not more than they end do to a winning score being achieved.

Well there’s your problem. If you don’t care about viable tactics then you have no right to complain about doing poorly in combat.

This idea of “shit gameplay” is entirely subjective. If I was playing a video game and kept thinking “this is shit gameplay” I’d stop playing that video game. If you think the gameplay is shit why do you keep playing?

That’s a good question, just like I asked gangsterism above, if you think the gameplay is shit why are you playing? I’m not you, I can’t answer that.

What I can answer is why I am playing GRB and it’s because I enjoy playing tanks and planes in the same game mode. Going back to Air Battles of any kind wouldn’t be fun for me because I wouldn’t get to play tanks. The mythical tank only mode wouldnt be fun for me because I wouldnt get to play planes.

By your definition the majority of the video game is low tier. If the world doesn’t revolve around that then it certainly doesnt revolve around the narrow sliver of what you deem top tier.

completely wrong

this shows how you couldnt be more out of touch, as with everything you say on here. no point in arguing something this dumb

debate around CAS does revolve around top tier

one aspect of the CAS problem doesnt change, ive said it maybe 50,000 times, but since you failed to understand it, i can waste my time by repeating it:
a player dying to CAS is unfair, and it doesnt matter if there were teammates that could have / tried to save them. and the assumption that there is always a teammate is another thing that shows you have no clue what youre on about

you havent touched top tier, so youre unqualified. its pretty simple

sorry that these answers are less elaborate, but youre a complete waste of time of a troll

not making any further arguments until you actually play the game (and as a result have a slight clue about what youre talking about)
albeit touching grass might genuinely help a lot more

dying to something you cant defend yourself against is objectively shit gameplay.
and ill repeat: the assumption that you have a teammate to defend you is laughable

because the underlying gameplay is fun, its just completely ruined by airstrikes. it could be chill, fun, skill-based pvp. instead its a bomb-dodging shitfest

CAS is most problematic at top tier, and this thread is literally about top tier.
it truly must be difficult to read, but ive already repeated this shit multiple times. you can go read the initial post for some epic fact checking

I want to play tanks.

GRB is most accessible.
GSB is playable once/week if you want to play a specific lineup or just progress thru a tree and are using your higher rank vehicles.

IL2:Great battles require multicrew (voice chat) AND usually servers require coordination to get tank vs tank going. Even for planes, playing whenever you want is very difficult with server numbers. Oh, and often servers are running normandy/bodenplate while all I got is BoM/BoS/BoK.

Red Orchestra 2 again requires voice chat due to multicrew. Also, it’s only german vs USSR and a very limited arsenal.

Idk about any other multiplayer WW2 game with tanks (that is NOT arcade).

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youre telling me you want to play ground vehicles (at least sometimes) in the gamemode called “ground battles”?
alright bud time to get serious, no jokin around

And yet you ignored where I said

If that was the case everyone would be complaining but they aren’t so its clearly objective to people who restrict themselves to tanks and hate CAS as a result.

The assumption has never been about what teammates are doing. The concept is that you have access to the tools necessary to respond to that attack, e.g. spawn a plane or an SPAA

Like I said, the biggest issue at Top tier isn’t CAS its people leaving after 1-2 deaths.

Good news for you, I hear World of Tanks added a hardcore mode.

Hardcore does not equal realistic or simulator physics.

Il2 would be great but most people who play Il2 play it for planes. I know I do. Tank games are usually preorganized and again, multicrew (and yes, Il2 does have CAS. Its skill floor is high enough to not be much of an issue especially given map sizes and spotting “mechanics”)

I’m allergic to voice chat, which is also why I mostly ASB or SP IL2 rather than MP IL2.

Dude, complaining that the Wellington is too hard to fight just makes you look pathetic.

i didnt ignore what you said, its an invalid argument and youve already said it before

a tank does not have the tools to respond to an attack.

i didnt say anything like that

making players play another game instead of improving this game is a genius strategy

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I recommend reading.

I maintain my offer.

I fly with full-real vs your full-real, or I fly realistic with autotrim vs your mousejoy. 109F4, F4U-4, P-51C/P-51, G.55 Sotto 0, Ki-61-I Hei mirror match/duel.

You insist people only hate CAS due to skill issues while you have made the above statements and then try and act pretending reality would conform to your attempts gaslighting.

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Dude, you can’t even learn to beat a bomber armed with only .303s with a fighter.

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I maintain my offer.

I fly with full-real vs your full-real, or I fly realistic with autotrim vs your mousejoy. 109F4, F4U-4, P-51C/P-51, G.55 Sotto 0, Ki-61-I Hei mirror match/duel. Your pick.

You insist people only hate CAS due to skill issues while you have made the above statements and then try and act pretending reality would conform to your attempts gaslighting.