How player skill with SPAA effects the CAS problem

Pick one.

Consistency is a virtue, hypocrisy is a fatal sin.

You cannot claim “Emulate real combat” to justify CAS then reject solutions from other games that seek to emulate real combat at a much deeper level and higher fidelity then decide you no longer want realism.

Pick another argument, or pick one from these conflicting statements.

GSB has the dumbest lineup system that could exist. Because I couldnt play Warthunder today, I don’t get to play my shermans for a while week.

A lot of people also play Warthunder due to lack of viable alternatives.

My hats off to you, noble selfless crusader.

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I have a compromise for you. Instead of demanding a TO version of GRB, why not request a normal matchmaker system for GSB?

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Well then retract what you said then because if you’re misquoting me and being all manipulative about it, then you need to actually be accountable.

Stop making statyements for me and making out I said things I didn’t JUST TO ARGUE LIKE YOU’VE BEEN DOING FOR OVER A WEEK…

You’re the ONLY ones trying to gatekeep because you don’t want any ‘cas mains’ to make any statements, and everyone just shouts everyone down.

If anything, the proponents of this dumb mentatlity to be upset at dying in a GAME are the ones who aren’t helping anyone because they just want to ego-stroke and flex on everyone to the extent they have that it spams up everything, like they proclaim that everyone else does…

It’s just them… Stop moaning and putting your fingers in your ears.

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I have a solution to his problems but he wont listen cause I’m a “CAS main” who doesnt play enough top tier.

The solution in 3 steps:

Step 1:Get all of the Tank Only proponents into a community on something like Discord.
Step 2:Use that community to organize a series of custom lobbies tuned exactly how they want.
Step 3:Play in those lobbies regularly to keep them populated, thus scratching the TO itch, and demonstrating to Gaijin tangible desire for TO better than “Anti-CAS thread #69948” on the forums ever could.

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To be honest, many solutions have been put forth, many alternatives to thier mode have been thrown about, yet they all just want what they demand, and it will never change.

Much the same as their dog-tired arguments and whataboutisms to counter anything and everything that is put forth.

The true issue I have is the want and upset nature of them so much so they have to be abusive and labelistic about who is commenting on thier threads.

It’s nothing to do with what I main, or what I even use in game, it’s about DARING to enter such a thread to not align with them, so much so you get labeled and berated until you are removed or told to pipe-down by a moderator for causing such a fuss.

The issue isn’t who is causing the fuss, but how they are reacting to it.

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When you present people who are upset with a viable solution and they reject it in favor of continuing to be upset then what they are demonstrating is that they do not want their problem solved, they want to be upset.

GTiwrK9

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The name of this topic and what is being discussed here is amusing at best.

The issue with SPAA is that people can’t hop into one without dying in a tank first or spawning it at the beginning of the game without being able to predict if their role will be needed.

As long as Gaijin doesn’t allow player to switch their vehicles on spawn (like air units can do on airport/helipad after repairing/rearming) without dying first, the problem will be here and the only solution Gaijin is going to implement are another nerfs/buffs/changes that no one asked for (like the changes to the SP system that many players who like combined aspect of the game are already angry about).

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I think it’s too late…
Gib tank only - fanks!

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cant even imagine how great the gameplay would be, doing something without a helicopter overhead

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there is no reason TO has to remain just a dream.
purely technically speaking it would be incredibly easy for gaijin to add TO.
the reason they didnt add it is simple, and its not that it would ruin the game or be “unintended gameplay”. they just like to milk players for money by forcing them to grind CAS and SPAA, while real tanks at top tier are somewhat sparse

Please keep discussions polite and constructive.
Let’s avoid personal insults and inflammatory remarks.
thank you

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Can we just drag this back to the point I’m making about the fact that nothing of what they said I said, was said, it was them ‘literally’ everything to make an argument and this diversionary action now is just to try slink away avoiding the point as these sorts of posters do.

They’re never discussing, it’s all a play.

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But In terms of gameplay, it’s no different from death. You still lose a vehicle and get a sp cost increase for the vehicles of this class.

It is different from death as You don’t actually die.

You don’t “lose” that vehicle. Why people bother to go to airfield/helipad instead of crashing into the ground?

We are talking about how it works for planes in ARB or GRB? I suspect we’re talking about different things.

GRB.

When I land on airport and leave the plane, I don’t “die”. I just lose SP which is fine.

It only affects your stats, that’s all. In terms of gameplay, it’s no different from death and you get exactly the same penalties.

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And why should it affect them?

I thought you needed changes that would have an impact on gameplay and change something about the cas problem. But this has zero effect on gameplay and only allows you to have a more beautiful number in your profile.

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It affects how players see it.

Again why players prefer to leave air units on the airfield rather than crashing and why tankers should not have that option?

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