Exactly at top tier CAS is the most balanced. And exactly at mid tiers it is the most broken, it costs less there, more people have it, more tanks that can be killed with machineguns and early SPAAs are the most skill dependant and the most hard to play as you need to make perfect lead without any assistance.
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the humble LDIRCM heli:
How good that SACLOS SPAAs exist
the ones which are easily defeated by just breaking line of sight while helis can engage them with FnF weapons that dont require line of sight?
Is very old ads like 3 years ago making fun of WoT.
Still valid
Meanwhile latest autocannon dispersion nerfs
I mean theres difference in autocannon having dispersion due to shake from the recoil of multiple rounds fired in quick succession and 128mm gun having same dispersion at 100m as long range unguided artillery fire at 45km
But its still absurd. Especially 2a72 (and ukrainian copy) change. It has much less recoil, much less firerate but somehow as precise as 2a42.
Also wot doesnt position itself as realistic game. While wt does and even used to do attacks like this on wot. Yet here we are with 2a72 nerf which makes no sense.
And now wot can probably extract revenge with ads like
“Tired of ai?”
“Tired of tons of copies instead of unique vehicles”
Whenever 2A72 adjustment is or it is not accurate wasnt my point, my point was that IRL there is dispersion but hardly one like in WoT where even IRL fully stabilised tanks have to wait few seconds in full stop before the dispersion circle shrinks enough to land accurate shot.
Ill take actual prototypes and service vehicles (and the overlap in “copypaste” it brings) over whatever is world of tanks cooking
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Fair enough.
I would take neither (copy or paper) but I still think they have their right to laugh at all those m44, m55, m4, leo2 copies which serve as grind fillers which you cant even skip if you wish to.
Also speaking of current topic. Wot can flex with “tired of cas in your tank battles?”
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Eh. Better this than to deny TT vehicle on grounds of “it was already added to X tree”.
lul, but id take WT CAS over WoT arty any day any week.
No need to deny. Gaijin could make those optional at least if you already grinded it on other tech tree. So if people dont want it, they grind smth else. And if they need it for lineup, they can grind it.
Currently they are necessary to progress further in tech tree and thats my biggest issue with them.
Wot arty cant take away multiple people in one sortie tho.
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At the very least I can argue that WT CAS has to rearm and there are some roadblocks to spawning it (whenever they are or are not sufficient is another question).
WoT arty just boots into the match and can start making my day worse in the first second of its existence (practically only after im spotted but thats like 10 seconds tops) and has no downtime as long as it doesnt get killed.
Theyre both terrible mechanics, but at least theres SOME counterplay to WT CAS, however impractical it might be at times.
Yes but when they rearm they might already have some kills while artillery is reloading for another 300-400 dmg hit.
But it does it slowly and with huge reload. Unless you are playing in light armor and it happens to direct hit and deal full dmg.
I bet in most cases I can earn cas and ruin multiple people day faster than arty can score its first kill. Unless its some sadmobile like a10c.
It has huge reload. Not as huge as plane rtbing, reloading and going to tank map, yes. But again, your output is much worse.
Also we have stuff like su25t. 2 kh25ml, 2 kh29t, 16 vikhrs. 20 precise guided munitions. More than enough to basically have no downtime for entire battle. And score kills.
Bigger risk bigger reward I guess.
Let’s be honest… CAS takes no risk in doing even a bombing run, at low tier, or just flinging guided munition. I never played WoT but their artillery system feel way more balanced and bearable then CAS. But from what I’ve seen neither has any counterplay… tho i guess countre battery fire i double in WoT if both parties have SPGs
No offence but WoT has hp system make artilery a pretty joke because you would survive anyway compare the first artilery in WT like the Vidar was annoying and was instant death or modules and crew knock out.
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No offense taken, absolutely, as i said i never played WoT. I just say that to me CAS and their Artillery don’t really feel comparable… with war thunder artillery and artillery vehicles is completely different… in which WoT still feels more fair tbh
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I love this thread so much because it has little to nothing to do with the original comment and completely disregard the usage of SPAA by wanting a tank only mode
To be fair it always de-evolves into that, the simplest and most effective way to balance CAS is to outright remove it… would we lose SPAAGs? Yeah but looking at posts like this i don’t think anybody will miss it
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