When a semi capable CAS pilot takes out the 262 with that doom cannon he can wreck havoc. This guy was wiping out tank after tank, 1 hit killed my US T34, makes me wonder what the point of heavy tanks are, everything seems to waste them in 1 hit.
I went SPAA after in the awful Skink, not a chance in hell of hitting a jet bomber with this woeful tank.
The US need a decent, fast firing, mid tier SPAA.
I won’t be spawning anything if team collapse to enemy tanks in the first wave.
And if your team have no AA all the way across mid match - it’s not the plane’s fault now xD
Yea why not, and expose himself to sneaky me. yum yum
geez I did a grb 6.0 match for ya, 4 planes spawned, 0 A2G kills, team died to ground only xD
PRDF is a good framework for success
Positioning is very important, it’s very hard to hide a SAM even in a wooded area even more so now players can scout with drones and mark the map for their TGP.
Couple that in with im sorry to say Ultra LQ settings and vehicles practically glow when observed.
Flanking and moving away from the spawn is a good tactic but players are often sitting on the flanks of the spawn in light tanks IFVs and they will just take you out.
Radar is subjective, yes you could ambush aircraft but they would already have shot off their missiles. Seeing “S1” also puts the fear into many CAS players. You also want the aircraft to waste missiles on you.
Movement for smaller systems that spawn earlier sure, larger systems you are likely to be focussed by players who plan to spawn their own aircraft. Removing a Pantsir/ITO with an HE shell is far easier than killing it from the air. Map size is also a massive problem.
Firing, Agree too many players even with Radar AAA are trying to hit jets at 4km…
Generally being a good SAM player is dependant on so many factors, one the rewards are crap, shoot down a jet, missile or heli and you will still be bottom of the leader board the incentive isnt there. Players accept that game is gone and move on to the next one. There is no drive to want to stay and try and turn it around players just leave.
This , this is pretty much the reason why spawning in a SPAA is not worth it most of the time. Even then most people only spawn in a SPAA when they got killed by one and in that case there would be 1-2 other SPAA that got spawned in cause the CAS got a few more kills. Leading to less tank on the battlefield and the collapse of the team.
Not to mention against decent CAS player they gonna be anticipated the SPAA that gonna be spawn in after they killed someone and just spawn camp the spot.
There are so many aspect contribute toward why people don’t play SPAA and yet they are being ignored.
It is not just about the balance between CAS and SPAA. It is also about the gameplay and what else it can do beside shooting CAS.
Also most map either bad for SPAA or too big for SPAA.
There are so many factor to count in to decide whether a SPAA can do good or not. Unlike tank where even in the worst map gaijin can released they can still work in one way or another
0 A2G kills with 4 aircraft is just a gigantic CAS skill issue. or you may have had the very rare competent SPAA teammate, which isnt to be taken for granted
a strategy i use is just rush with t-80, have fun with some pvp, and then jump in the pantsir when i die.
if i dont die, we win. if i die, i can actually defend my team from imminent death by CAS.
except when im in the SPAA, im done helping my team on the ground, and wont be shooting tanks nor capping points.
this sort of gameplay is fun occasionally but when i always have to be the one SPAA for the whole team, i get sick of it pretty soon
Because again, why would anyone let themselves be shot down? The only time I go after SPAAs is when they’re shooting at someone else
just OP america CAS
US doesnt need anything - just use your 50 cal - one bullet will kill the garbage 262 engines
Having passes in front of me on my team but no you won’t be downed for you simply don’t want to ofc mate
Why would i let you stay alive anyways =D
Because early SPAA isn’t that impressive besides Ostwind
wasn’t on that br range xD
while ost is already not early. would enjoy post war bofors 40 more anyways
The premise of his argument, that CAS cannot be fought against, is wrong. An argument is invalid by definition if it has a false premise. Even tanks without anti-air MGs are able to smoke, hide behind cover, dodge bombs, shoot when in gun angles, etc. This also ignores SPAA entirely, which is rather laughable.
his premise is entirely right
yea because im going to pop smokes for the duration of the entire game with the hopes that it deters CAS
this is not possible most of the time
if you send a video of you dodging a kh38 then i will agree with what youre saying
su34 & all other CAS aircraft are famously always in gun angles
relying on SPAA is laughable, relying on a teammate is laugable.
the fact that a team has to rely on a SPAA teammate is double laughable.
what if ground RB players want to play ground? at least a few of them are going to give up their game in order to sit in a SPAA. sounds like riveting gameplay
Then go play world of tanks and please stop crying here already, my god.
at least bother to make up some argument before commenting in this thread.
at least showing that you dont give a fuck is better than being a nuisance troll
God forbid playing tanks in GROUND battles
God forbid You don’t want to be killed by something You can’t do anything about in PvP game.
xDDDDDDDDDDDD
i want to see it too xD
Yesterday Kh38 hit me inside building, and bro tell you “dodge this” xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
