Because they haven’t allowed the latest tanks into ground only tournaments.
Here’s the US
And here’s Germany and Sweden for reference
Those Abrams are clearly better than THAT particular competition, but add the Strv 121s/L2A7s/T-90M/T-80BVM and your narrative falls apart.
Keep raging over us mains on self-made posts instead of poisoning other people’s posts.
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Wow! No wonder- this is basically 2019 matchmaking.
And yes; back then, the Abrams was indeed the king.
The Abrams started slowly losing relevance in 2021, and, by 2024, it was already crushed by many of the latest additions.
All Abrams variants have been the exact same thing since 2019 because Gaijin refuses to model the upgrades and advantages of the newest variants they’ve been implemented.
That’s why the Abrams has fallen behind. SEP, SEPv2, A2, HC, AIM… are all the same tank we got back in 2019. Meanwhile, all other nations have been getting substantial upgrades gradually.
So yeah. In 2019 it was the goat. Now that we got half a million Strv 122s, 2A7s, etc… it’s nice, but far from great.
The 5 second reload they got as an emergency measure is the only thing that’s keeping them more or less relevant.
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In a compressed BR range, that difference doesn’t even matter, its downtiers aren’t even common.
Grow up.
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I play with China, France, Israel, Italy and Sweden in the top tier…
…and I complained about aim120 because it is an unfair missile
the difference between the other missies for him is abysmal.
0.3 definitely isn’t meaningless as pushing M1A2 and HC/CB to 12.0 would help players at 10.7.
Nice derailing of the topic btw
Maybe next time don’t talk about ground units in a thread about 120.
Tell that to Von Valinor that started its “yuh abrums dominates in ground tournaments” bs narrative
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I’m telling it to you as you’re the one that’s telling others to stop derailing while you’re doing the same thing.
I’d accept a slight derailment to stop false narratives, rather than pushing it further to 10.7 vehicles that have NOTHING to do to his point.
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Talking about M1s and other top tier tanks in a thread about ARHs isn’t just a slight derailment.
Me talking about 10.7s is just a case of me stopping false narratives after seeing people claiming 0.3 difference is meaningless.
that difference doesn’t even matter, its downtiers aren’t even common.
Do you have any valid source for that, or is it just an anecdote ?
Same anecdotes as your word for ‘the Abrams is a good tank, players are the issue’
stop derailing aim120 topic
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At least tanks have hard stats you can compare between tanks (ammo, armor, mobility, etc…), meanwhile your “claim” about downtiers being uncommon is nothing but a hearsay to make it more believable.
I feel like half this thread haven’t used the aim120 to say its weaker than r77-1. It maintains energy better than the r77-1. Having used both, i’d rather have the amraam. Especially off of something like an f15 or eurofighter, even rafale would make an excellent aim120 host. You can get consistent hits out to 40km or so. Furthest I’ve managed to push it is about 50km. You just have to be going mach 1.5 or better. Most of the time people are going so fast that they cant hit the notch before the missile hits them. You have to dive hard to dodge them.
You must think the F-90 sucks and the IRIAF should go to 12.3 if that’s what you believe actual engagement ranges are.
I have no clue about those, so I abstain from speaking about that which I am not familiar with, hahah.
I’d rather have R-77-1 on russian planes and amraam on western planes which is fitting