It’s a terridogshit plane.
- Then don’t play it.
- Nah. It’s fine.
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maybe there is pretty much no reason why you should get slow in jets… and its a great plane when you do not try to turnfight, just stay fast and take headons with it… had a 7 or 8kill game with the thai one…
They don’t.
That applies to almost everything it faces, and it still accelerates better than most sub 8.0 planes.
Neither of these are true.
Not really.
it was not bad while riding. I think it would be at a decent level for 7.7
It does not accelerate better than most sub 8.0 planes, as you can see from this sample.
It’s at the bottom of the curve until it hits 800kph, then it can actually out-accelerate other 7.7s and make its relatively high top speed work for you. However even a j29a will keep up with you and eventually overtake you because of its higher top speed. It’s acceleration is definitely not its strong point, the relatively high top speed can be useful for escaping from slower jets or storing up energy to engage in energy traps etc. but you’re really reliant on conserving your energy in fights or you will be in trouble.
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That is good information, but none of the planes shown have an airspawn,which is the main reason why the F-84G is so oppressive. I do think that the J29A would be the better plane if both had an airfield spawn/airspawn, but currently only one does, and it makes facing it unfair.
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Dodge the F-84G once and the air spawn energy advantage goes out of the window. It’s when they work as a team while keeping speed that they become insanely strong.
Not how that works at all… You can reset the fight by diving but the F-84G isn’t obligated to follow you. This is like saying the A6M just needs to dodge the P-47 once then he can disregard the P-47s massive energy advantage. The F-84G airspawns and therefore starts at an energy surplus relative to the enemy and this won’t equalize until an enemy reaches the F-84G’s altitude and speed
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But that IS the case with jets. As a jet you can keep building up energy even at higher speeds (in a shallow climb), unlike something that has no thrust at higher speed like a Zero.
At a certain point, surplus energy becomes unusable. Imagine two opposing F-84Gs flying at top speed, one of them 3km above the other. How is the higher F-84G going to use it’s energy surplus offensively? It can’t, because air resistance and structural limits will prevent usage of that energy, and going faster than your opponent will harm your turn circle, making reversals a threat for yourself.
With that, if it wants to do any kind of meaningful action, it’ll have to take risk and give up it’s speed safety net.
I know they’re always going to be faster than me, whether they’re below or above me, so it doesn’t matter whether they’re overwhelmingly above me or not. Their real strength comes from baiting for others, or collecting bait themselves, in a low risk manner. The airspawn merely changes when they see their opponents. Not to discredit the effect of slightly reducing the enemy team’s energy state by distracting them during the initial climb, that’s always beneficial to your own team.
Unless you’ve equalized the energy, the F-84G still has the surplus over you and you’re still in the deficit. Dodging one strafe isn’t enough to do this if you started in the deficit.
Yes and this is at much higher altitudes than what the F-84G utilizes early game with its energy advantage.
This example doesn’t matter because it isn’t reflective of reality and how the matches actually play out. Again, you start at an energy advantage in the F-84G. A massive one. The entire point is to utilize this energy advantage to make early game plays when the opponents physically cannot have already equalized out to you. They aren’t going top speed at sea level. They are climbing at whatever speed or just starting to gain their level flight speed when you swoop in with the F-84G. You then press the advantage and BnZ them to death with the advantage so long as you don’t get hit by a separate target.
The F-84G gives me Wyvern vibes.
It can be very influential at match start, because the combination of air spawn and speed gives it a choice between ground pounding, taking out attackers/bombers, or focusing on fighters. If you maintain speed and altitude, you can pass some of those opportunities on to your team as you force enemies to react to you.
I’ve seen well flown F-84G have some awesome matches… both for and against my team. I’ve also seen F-84G that want to turn fight… and that doesn’t usually end well for them.
The most important thing for the F-84G is to resist temptation.
playing f-84 needs to let go of the desire for kills and focus on using speed to repeatedly hit and run.
No. F-84G literally has the takeoff run of a B-29. It’s acceleration is worst than most early jets.
Only at low-mid speeds. At high speeds its acceleration is quite good compared to a lot of others
Low speed is exactly where acceleration matters most.
not really
Ok, so I don’t know how to explain this to you, but being faster when you’re slow is more important than being faster when you’re fast.
You don’t really know what you’re talking about
it is clear that it has a good performance at 7.7BR.
Currently, 12.7mm machine guns show good firepower and it is spawned in the air, so it can always be above the enemies from the start.