How I Would Restructure 10.0 - 11.0 BR Range For Nato Ground Forces

The 10.0 - 11.0 structure for ground doesn’t make much sense and just seems a bit one sided towards Russia, let me explain.

After I finished the Uk ground forces tech tree I moved onto Germany as the premium Leopard 2 had just come out, it was one of my first premium vehicles in the game and I quite in enjoyed the gameplay of it compared to British Vehicles. At the time the Leopard 2 was at 10.3 which was a good battle rating for it as it matched perfectly with other nations and was decently balanced, same with Russia which had the 2S38 (this one can be talked over), t72Av and bmp2-m which were all at 10.3. Each game played came down to who had the best skilled players, each time I played it was a 50/50 chance (give or take) on who would win. However Gaijin added the event vehicle object 292 which was spammed constantly and made any MBT feel like a light tank, it was a very boring time to play as it felt like you were just being up tiered as the 292 could pen you everywhere. Over the time though it died out and things went back to normal. But one update (can’t remember which one) Gaijined did a BR change for all Nato Vehicles which changed their BR from 10.3 → 10.7. Now I have a couple of problems with this.
In the current state of War Thunder having vehicles that should be at 10.3 which are at 10.7 which are facing against vehicles of 11.7 is quite unfair and boring. Pretty much every game teams will get wiped by T80U-E1 players running march 1 around the battle field, 4s auto loading type 90 Fuji and stuff which has 500mm+ pen which turns your MBT into a light tank. Now a lot of people will think i’m a German premium main crying about stuff but I have grinded out a couple other nations to find out their POV. I found that other vehicles which had received the same treatment like the US with the M1 Abrams at 10.7, M1 KVT, Germany Leopard 2A4, Leopard 2 (PzBtl 123), UK Challenger Mk3, Challenger DS, Italy Leopard 2A4, France Leopard 2A4NL, Sweden Strv 121, Christian ll. All these vehicles were suffering from the same problem of facing against much stronger vehicles when full up tiers or even slight up tiers.

The solution:
I would (please mention and that I have missed) back down to 10.3 as there are so many 11.7 MBT’s (both premium and non premium) which have popped up and turned these vehicles into butter, I’ve playing 11.7 Russia and wiped the floor against every 10.7 NATO team without dying once. Returning these vehicles back to 10.3 would then allow them to shine in the right spot and bring back a sort of stable 10.0 - 11.0 area for any NATO enjoyers and rejuvenate interest for both old and new players.

Full List Of Changes I would Do:

US
M1 Abrams 10.7 → 10.3
M1 KVT 10.7 → 10.0 (This vehicle should go down to 10 as placing it at 10.7 is a scam for your money)

Germany
Leopard 2A4 10.7 → 10.3
Leopard2 (PzBtl 123) 10.7 → 10.3

USSR
T80UD 10.3 → 10
2S38 10.3 → 10.7
T90A 11.0 → 11.3

UK
Challenger DS 10.7 → 10.3
Vickers Mk.7 10.7 → 10.3
Challenger Mk.3 10.7 → 10.3

China
Al- Khalid-l 11.0 → 11.3

Italy
Leopard 2A4 10.7 → 10.3

France
Leopard 2A4NL 10.7 → 10.3

Sweden
Strv 121 10.7 → 10.3
Leopard 2A4 10.7 → 10.3
Christian ll 10.7 → 10.3

Feel free to comment your opinion and your thoughts on this matter, thank you for reading.

I do agree that many of these vehicles do need to go down in br (especially the 2A4’s). I think however the biggest problem is that all these vehicles share the same br range for no reason.

This is why we need br decompression many vehicles need to be 12.0 13.0 and possibly 14.0. But i don’t think that will happen until we get the T-14 , Abrams-x and KF-51.

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If Gaijin add the propaganda T-14 Armata I think I might make my own game tbh, its such a propaganda tank with made up statics and nothing really backing it up. It legit broke down on a parade, I’m also a little worried about this new t80 with hard kill active protection system that’s coming out in the new update, not tested it yet but I bet It will have better active protection than the Israel Merkava Mk4m despite Russia not having the best of tech. Again nothing to back it up besides propaganda.

Its a t72

It doesnt

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Thanks for clarify.

They were all 10.0 at the time, they got moved to 10.3 at the same time this happened

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???

you just want your enemies tanks to be underpowered and your own tanks to be overpowered

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Theres a lot more 11.x premiums now so these 10.x premiums actually get dragged up a lot, the brs are fine the MM has changed significantly recently

Every tank suffers in uptiers, and gaijin has no incentive to lower 10.x premiums as obviously it makes 11.x premiums more desirable.

PLEEEASE I WANNA PLAY MY 2A4nl
moving it down would atleast make an actual lineup

“Moving it up”?

If nothing but BR changes, what prevents you from putting a 10.7 (or 10.3) tank into your higher BR lineup anyway?

9.3 be like:

Please, ask for decompression, not recompression

Brain fart

But the 11.7 tanks were also at 11.3 before the BR update? It’s not like you could have avoided them in matchmaking back in 10.3.

Instead of moving underperforming vehicles like the Abrams down, we should instead move overperforming vehicles up.