How are you suppose to fight the SM2

I dont really care about anything until now
Now because i mentioned the SM2 in the title dont go conclude “muh only pick on russian jet, russian bias bleh bleh”. I have skill issue, but fighting is thing is unbearable, there is no way im able to even score “hit” on this thing let alone having a chance to fire safely. I fly f-15e, have occasional skill issue but never in my entire career of flying top tier it has been this bad, i cannot fight these “things” for shit at all, missiles always do nothing because they always notch it and even if i notch, multipath and use my “world record” 31 cms per second it does nothing, i died anyways. The only way to defeat these thing is to dive my shit straight 6ft under and quit, but i want to fly my jet anyways because i find fun in it. Now its all in shamble and i have to start digging in my graves.
Gaijin PLEASE for the love of god seperate the new AESA entirely because im entire outclass in both manuverability, speed(in closer quarter, but it also doesnt matter because my missiles cant hit for shit), the missiles itself, radars and payload. Or atleast decompress everything so i dont have to miserably deal with this shit everyday

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In a f15e? You simply cannot win a 1v1 with a sm2 if they have a single working braincell

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new br / rank will come soon, i just hope it n sonner than the march update.

Our only hope is for BR to go up at least to 15.0 so we get some decompression around top tier

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My biggest issue is the AIM120. I just don’t find it an enjoyable missile to use. Stopped taking my F-15I out because of that fact alone.

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You cant.

Not gonna lie the F15E is dead, BVR kinda sucks nowadays and considering its stuck with a PESA, and that most aircraft can get really close to it in speed, its just not relevant at all anymore

yea, the usa is not in a good position with current weaponry. Dont worry though the other side will have dominance for a year or two, then they add usa equivalent and usa gets dominance for 6 to 9 months then back to the other side for two years.

Which SM2 bro. There the Su-30SM2 and the Su-27SM2.

Either way everything is kinda broken rn

i had thought about this before, but failed.
if its game theory, i’d say there’s no solution to win a 1v1 fight against su30sm2, if both play optimally (its even clearer if u re a f15e)
then how to play optimally as a su30sm2? that easy just keep notching and shoot ur msl like a battleship at least u wont die
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You can notch his missiles the same way he notches yours

but he can hard lock an R27ER in the notch which iirc is harder to notch than an ARH

The only reason the r27er is harder to notch is because it can be relocked and an ARH won’t unless it detects you again itself. That’s it. It’s one thing to lose the matchup because you’re in a worse jet, but OP implies he is simply dying because of a failure to notch, which means he would also fail to notch any other missile from any other jet.

really? the planes radar has the exact same notch angle as an ARH seeker?

It really isn’t very different, yes.

so there is a difference?

The difference is extremely minor. It’s a skill issue. As I said, the difficulty in notching r27er comes from the plane being able to re-lock you if you leave the notch, not because it’s “so much harder” to notch a plane’s radar. Do you need to be told again?

but the Su-30SM2 only has to turn to notch once, it can guide from the notch while the F-15 has to turn into oncoming missiles to return fire. how can you win without the other guy being an idiot?

I suggest you read before I stop replying.

The R-27ER, R-27R and maybe the AIM-7P too, are all harder to evade than fox3s in a notch. There’s more to play than the notch angles, since they all have IOG but these SARHs can also reacquire if you manage to relock, plus if you are still inside the radar illuminator cone, you are often cooked.

With Fox3s when they lose track at short range to chaff and you evade their IOG path, you are safe

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