F-117 in air would be balanced at pretty much any BR since its completely trash and useless.
In ground currently its 10.0 which is fine and is still worse than most other cas planes.
I really dont see this as a “balancing” problem other than the plane being literally impossible to grind because its so bad.
Flight some air battles… Its extremely weak. Need rebalance, but i dont know how. Easy target for fighters, easy target for AA. So… its just a mess at this time.
Its a “maybe” suggestions:
F117 doesn’t need rebalance, Air RB as a mode needs to be rebalanced. It’s just pretty much Fighter heaven, with no space for Strike aircraft. Most viable strike aircraft are just reduced to a fighter role. (and Bomber by extension is also left behind)
Agree. But F-117 BR doomed to be a practice target at this time. So until we get a huge rebalance, renewed mode and decompressed BR-s, F-117 is just a duck, temporary fast fix could be the lowering BR rating.
it’ll always be a duck. Put it too early and its untouchable, put it too late and its stealth is worthless. There is no middle ground.
Lets say there is decompression and such, the F-117 could bomb targets at very high alt. and be untouchable to early jets/props, a sitting duck to mid-late jets (SARH, + High Subsonic jets)
Too early for what? What is there above 6.7 that can’t catch and kill it?? Ki-84 maybe… B-29…??
It isn’t fast, it isn’t maneuverable, it isn’t armed…
iirc it has the same top speed as a lot of early jets, but accelerates better
I’d say the issue with putting it early is less touchability and more immersion.
It’s 8.7 in ASB. F86A5 is 8.7 as well.
Imagine going into a match for cool Mig vs Sabre dogfights or meteor vs Me262 and then you see weird Fly-by-wire contraptions that want to kill the pilot if you turn it off (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrquAbvVRG8 - not my recording, just reuploaded because hilarious) just doritoing their way across the battlefield. It kind of takes you out of it, even if you are on the same side. (I love them IRL mind you, just they’re kinda immersion breaking for 7.7-8.7 aircraft vibes)
And then it has to turn…
Should be 9.3 ground honestly. It’s just objectively worse than A-4E
It could still get GBU-39’s (and maybe -53s) so it’s not entirely dead. At least if they are somewhat loose with the configuration since it’s not like they would add a second one.
Right?
To answer the original question. They just refuse to. It’s one of the worst aircraft in the game period, not even just at its BR. 8.7 for air is way too high for it and the lack of air spawn completely kills it. You either get a down tier with bombers that and strikers that do get air spawns and will get the ground AI and bases before you or you get an up tier with fighters that are significantly faster than you and will either kill you with missiles or guns before you can get anywhere near the battle or will steal all the bases and AI before you again. No matter how the match maker treats you, Gaijin’s awful balancing of this aircraft in ARB makes it unplayable. It should be like 7.7 MAX because even if things can’t catch you, not like you can kill anything anyway so you can just run back to base where you can either J out or try to take off and get shredded. Much like non US F-84Fs, it desperately needs the air spawn based on rank system removed and needs it done based on individual aircraft.
Genuinely one of the most pointless aircraft in the game that Gaijin seemingly refuses to do anything to fix
Should have just made it have all the mods researched automatically since the thing is a complete meme in arb and spading a plane in grb is near impossible.
Feel like a lot of people probably GE the important mods and didnt touch ARB with it.
0.01 kd and 269 rp average per game lmao
Yeah. I doubt more than like 12 people use it in arb.
I forget, doesnt it start with guided bombs?
As long as you have those, it not bad in grb
Two paveways or JDAMs is pretty bad at 10.0, especially with a bugged camera.
It has been working well for me.
Infamous CAS hater saying one of the worst CAS planes in the game “works well.” nothing seems off about that . . .
What k/d should someone achieve in it for you to consider it not bad or good?
I use cas a lot but okay
I’ve been trying to spade it in ARB to get the research boosts to finish the US air tree. I have intimate knowledge with how ass it is and I can confirm that those stats are the average match in it.
In matches where you’re lucky if you walk away with 1k research earned towards your modules, having the engine be worth 46k research is insane.
It really highlights how Gaijin needs to stop basing research costs and air spawns based on things like the rank or BR the thing is at and base them on individual aircraft performances, same with the F-84Fs.
But we know that day will likely never come.
