So whom isn’t getting this Treatment this update?
50% more ammo and a higher RoF. People who have used both prefer the AV-8B(NA)s gun but I have no personal issues with the 25mm ADEN. But if you run a tpod for VID, you loose 50% of the T.10s gun power the AV-8B(NA) does not, whilst also having a better Tpod
Now I personally consider the 25mm ADEN the best gun on the british TT but in a 1v1 fight between a T.10 and a AV-8B(NA) I would have to give the point to the US Harrier.
Both are 11.3 within ARB, yes the AV-8B(NA) is 11.7 in SB, though I attribute that to its 10x GPS guided bombs and not it’s A2A performance, but the FRS1 is also 11.3 in SB with it’s radar with IFF and overall equal combat performance.
Never said that. What I said is the T.10 should be 11.0 or receive 2x BOL. But I could make the argument though Su-39 with 3x more CMs, IRCCM missiles, a radar and IRCM should be a higher BR than the T.10 in its current state.
It should have 700. The MAWS might save you, it might only give you warning if your impending death.
Given the IR signature issues affecting the harrier as is. Which is only getting worse with this major update with an increase in thrust. 60 CMs might not be enough to defend against any IR missiles. Let alone any with IRCCM
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A Type 74 to go with your Type 74 that goes with your Type 74 to go with your Type 74 that goes with your Type 74 and your Type 74.
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This just made me laugh… sheesh that BIAS IS Showwwwinnnnnggg!
You: ”a-10c is fine at 11.7 (was 11.3, where you also said it was fine)”
You: ”put the Su-39 up in br with no buffs”
You: ”700 cms is fine”
Yeah no lol no plane below 13.3 should have 264+ cms. Anything above 400 is already literally crazy. Any smart player can survive with that amount. It’s the unaware player that thinks sub 240 is terrible.
Av-8Na can flare irccm aams while at full thrust… so no, I think it’s fine as is.
It should have 700. We have asked for only 2 BOL not 4. Which would give it 320 additional BOL CMs not the 640 you would get with all 4, with the current Nerfs meaning you need about 4 BOL to every regular CM found on the Su-39, AV-8B(NA) or A-10C, 2x BOO gives it approximately 80 additional CMs Bringing the T 10 up to approx 140 CMs. But it could and should have 4x BOL and BOLs flare should have a performance to similar to large calibre flares, not standard calibre, and certainly not 1/4 that of standard CMs.
Given the Gr7 had 4x BOL (with a performance equal to standard CMs prior to the BOL nerfs) and 4x 9Ls. It Had operated at a BR of what would translate to about 11.7 these days for well over a year without issues it’s hard to understand their “balancing concerns” of giving it 2x BOL, especially given the defensive loadout of basically any sub-sonic CAS aircraft at or near the same BR has 2 or 3 times more CMs, and some even more than that.
.then you employed the missile wrong or the harrier was near it’s max speed and had throttled way down to defend…the combo helps greatly. In a dogfight maintaining a higher throttle settings and not had high speed. The harriers have one of, if not the hottest IR signature in game by quite a margin
Convient margin, given the Su-25SM3 at 11.7 has exactly 10 Less CMs than that. Definetly no bias there.
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no plane below 13.3 should have 264+ cms
What a very specific number, what could you be refering to?
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same br btw as the T.10
in all fairness, i DID only use 20 countermeasures and 6 chaff this match. however, nobody even fired a missile at me becuase im playing it safe.
thats a 1/3rd gone without anything even happening to the T.10. luckly the AV8B i run 150cm and 30 chaff (without sacrificing air to air)
even with the bol the cannon is SO good on the harrier AV8B, the T.10 should go to 11.0 anyway
By my reckoning and experience at lower BRs in the FRS1, 60 CMs would provide adequate protection from a single determined fighter, but that would be about it and that whilst nursing the CM count as much as possible.
And that’s prior to the increase in thrust and therefore IR sig we are getting this major update. Which is both a blessing and curse
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The T.10 is wasted potential.
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I wouldn’t bother, they’ve never played a Harrier, any of them
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haha they play exclusively Russia ground by the looks of things
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Yeah… If it’s russian it suffers. If It’s not russian it’s OP. Has been their standard policy for literally every single thread
The Americans are just as bad.
Thats the problem when you play 1 nation. obviously im very keen on what britian gets (duh, im british and grew up with these aircraft) but i have most nations done and i play alot of USA and Russia!
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Same but like a Harrier sustaining 2-3 G less than it should and having 0 of its irl abilities is more whine worthy than say Americans wanting a missile for the F-14
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As a joke, maybe some Soviets are living in a parallel world that
- Yak-38 and Yak-41 are the world’s most well-made VTOL jet.
- While NATO failed in the attempt of copying Yak-38 miserably and created an abomination named ‘Harrier’. (I am well aware that Yak-36/38 and Harrier are not having any connection IRL)
- And even the USMC bought Yak-38M2 for replacing outdated and malfunctioning AV-8C
- Yakovlev taking over both McDonnell Douglas and Hawker Siddely and sharing some magic trick for fixing the remaining harriers, and now selling a Stealth version of Yak-141 which beats both X-32/X-35 in JSF program.
:/
Yak-38 also sucks. R-60 on 9.3BR is neat point in close encounter. But their FM are also in awful state.
And planes from the US usually just spam-installs CM pod in their plane, so it doesn’t have any chance of having a close encounter or grant free kill.
We also can see Ayit on 9.3BR which beats Yak-38 in nearly every way. right?
I saw nobody but some Chinese guys playing Yak-38, but they were exclusively using it as napalm bombing only, as a worse version of Su-7BMK or MiG-21S.
Yes. Yak-38 suffers. It might be one of the worst premium jets in this game.
But it doesn’t make Harrier T.10 OP or worthwhile to buy.
Both are worthless to buy in the current meta.
Seriously, I don’t understand why he brought Yak-38 for Defend Gaijin on Harrier T.10 problem.
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Forger was a useless plane irl lol.
Yes and no. for example, I mostly only play 1 nation, but I have an appreciation for other nations placement and wouldnt advocate for significant changes without good cause. With a heavy emphasis on IRL performanc.
But a few players, just want to see everyone else nerfed hard and themselves buffed. Even if those changes are entirely ahistorical or outright unfair
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Maybe that was the reason Harrier 1 had awful FM for a long, looong time in WT.
“Balancing decisions”
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It’s insane how I spent months digging up everything I could find.
Find everything they need
And they STILL get it wrong lol.