HE bug is relevant to shatters afaik, meanwhile this was a kinetic round.
Also the lower edge of Renown’s belt is just one and a half metre below the surface, meaning that a shell coming with 8 deg AoF would have to travel “only” 11m to bypass the belt. As game codes say 5" shells can travel up to 13m in water this is entirely possible if the shell fuze doesn’t set off on water (50/50 chance)
Looks higher than that to me…
How much freeboard does the model have forward? As designed she was 35 feet though by 1940 she was down to 26 feet, which caused some concern. Model looks to be closer to 35 feet…
Saying that she probably had AAA added between 1940 and 1944.
Edit: From the after action report against the Scharnhorst…
“With reference to your submission No. 933/H.F. 1325 of the 29th May, paragraph 6, I am to inform you that their Lordships concur that the displacement of RENOWN has increased some 5,000 tons since the ship was designed, the increase being approximately from 31,000 to 36,000 tons. The freeboard forward has decreased from about 27 feet to about 26 feet.”
I measure the current model’s freeboard as being 32 feet, though no doubt Gaijin’s ruler will differ because… British.
So 26 feet before she had 72 x Oerlikons, a quad pompom, radars and fire directors added. She’s basically a hydrofoil at the moment.
In 1940 she could only make 30 knots.
Though in real life this depended upon the sea conditions, sailing into a head sea when taking on the Scharnhorst for instance she could only make 24-26 knots. At 26 she was shipping green which poured into a hatch blown open by her own guns and the main batteries couldn’t be operated. Scharnhorst and the Gneisenau had lost their destroyer escort as they could only make 22 knots in the rough seas.
Would you mind giving a link to the reference? It would be a nice addition to my internal report regarding draft issues.
Edit: nvm found it
https://www.naval-history.net/xDKWD-HF1940BCS1.htm
I’m sure Fischer’s original specification was for 35 feet of freeboard. Don’t have a reference, just stuff I’ve read over the years. Seems she sits a little below this but not much. She’s about 2 metres higher in the water than she should be when, given the increased weight of AAA and ammunition for such she should be even lower than her 1940 trim.
Edit:
" In a brief letter to the Director of Naval Construction dated 12 December 1914 Fisher gave his staff requirements; ‘Battle cruiser Rhadamanthus . Speed 32 knots – Six 15 inch guns – Twenty 4 inch automatic guns all on top deck (20° elevation) Range (? yards) (30° elevation Range 14,000 yards) – armoured like Indefatigable – 2 Torpedo Tubes – All oil – Radius of action at ( ) knots ( ) miles. Freeboard forward 35 feet aft ( ) feet. Length 750 feet – Beam ( ) feet."
Well the major update’s out now - any sign of them bothering to fix any of the issues?
I don’t think I saw any mention of renown in changelog but didnt open the game either so no idea
It may be better or worse depending on how you interpret this change.
Does this make it easier or more difficult to one shot it?
Easier. The codes for her magazine and shell rooms were flipped so that the magazine hit would not cause a fatal detonation before the update. Now this get fixed and the magazine which is located above shell rooms would be her fatal spot.
Oh good. It really needed to be easier to blow up…
Do they do this s#*t on purpose? Make an error in the game worse and call it a ‘fix’!
…They really still haven’t even given her the HE-VT other 4.5-inch guns get? Or 6crh?
And yet, she’s been nerfed already despite her current state?!
The ONLY thing Gaijin seems to look at are game stats. I have a Renown and want it to be better. Therefore, I’m doing as poorly as possible in it, and any other Renown I see when playing other ships is a priority target.
It’s simply impossible to paly it “well”. I tried my best and could barely hit a K/D ratio of 4, while all of my other battleships are 5 at the very least with many of them around 10 or more.
I’m at 33 battles with 20 deaths and 94 kills, so I can do well with it. I still want it to be a “real” 7.0 ship. I know you do everything you can to fix the inaccuracies. Is there anything we, as players, can do?
Frankly speaking, not really except making the stats bad enough to get her down tiered. There’s a long list of ships awaiting to get fixed and since Renown just came by recently she’s far behind the queue atm. To me the most possible guess is that she’ll get down tiered first, then she might get her draft and armour fixed in the future which might make her too OP at her then present BR, and getting up tiered again.
Played her tonight and she was fairly brutal. My crew is bad on her, and I don’t have a lot of unlocks, but she’s a real chore to play at 7.0 regardless.
Her front magazines get destroyed so easily, and she just doesn’t have the fire power of the other ships at 7.0.
Accidentally got a “preview” of what if Renown’s draft getting fixed:
With correct draft, the ceiling of magazine would have been noticeably deeper and thus harder to hit within 8000 - 9000m. On the other hand however, she will be more vulnerable to flooding since the height of the belt over waterline will be also significantly reduced.
I’d take flooding danger over ammo detonation any time.
I assume this was never fixed right?
