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there is some nothing burger around (copy paste stuff) but honestly, there’s a great amount of nice looking vehicles, +1 from me, rank 4-7 tier would be the most interesting part in my eyes, quite a good amount of research was put on the listings.
I still do worry if the air tree would be a nothing burger (copy paste)
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It’s really good, but I would say if they could add the T-55 Typhoon 2A (a modernized T-55 from Peru, in collaboration with Ukraine)
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I’m a simple woman, I see CVRT, I +1
Personally I would suggest adding the modernised version sold to Chile as a GE premium (at a higher BR due to the LRF - 7.0 perhaps? Not like it’ll be trouble for Heavies), and have a Chilean skin on the TT one but that’s just my obsession talking.
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At the rate we’re going, they’ll end up putting the US into the British tech tree, either as a subtree or whatever they’re calling it these days.
I don’t see why we couldn’t have a Hispanic tech tree.
At this point, after giving the Pucará to Germany and considering the dev’s, CM’s, and even BVVD’s outright refusal to discuss or even acknowledge the possibility of a LATAM tech tree, I don’t have much hope left.
I think a Hispanic tech tree is probably our most realistic option.
After all, just look at the multicultural festival the British TT has become, why not us?
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WOW! Awesome, +1
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@Chilean_Thunder As i said on my previous messages before they got deleted, if you need some help with the other branches of the tt i can help in knowledge mainly in spanish units.
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Well, as I was saying, +1. There’s plenty of interesting and unique vehicles to add. It’d also represent a big part of the community, and would make War Thunder the first game to ever represent hispanic countries this way, to my knowledge. It’s a chance developers can’t miss.
P.D. I can help in whatever’s necessary regarding ground, I have a good source on most vehicles which I have talked to you about in private :- )
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Spanish Naval Infantry used the Scorpion during the 80s (I even got their organization saved somewhere), but I doubt the base one would make an appearance in the game since due to the current state of HESH it would be almost useless.
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First of all, I want to acknowledge the amount of research and effort that went into this proposal. It’s clear that a lot of work has been done to give Hispanic vehicles proper representation within War Thunder.
However, my main disagreement is not with the vehicles themselves, but with the overall scope of the project. While it is presented as a Hispanic ground forces tree, it seems to focus primarily on Spain, Chile, and Argentina, while overlooking other Hispanic countries that also possess military vehicles, modernization programs, and defense industries capable of contributing meaningful content.
My point is not that every Hispanic nation must be included. Rather, if the goal is to create a competitive and sustainable tech tree, I believe it is worth considering which approach better aligns with how Gaijin has historically designed new nations and subtrees.
Over the years, Gaijin has generally favored larger and more expandable trees—ones that can support long-term growth through additional vehicles, premiums, event vehicles, sub-branches, and future content. This is one of the reasons why I find BHMaster’s LATAM proposal particularly interesting. Not because it is simply a collection of countries, but because it attempts to bring together the contributions of multiple Latin American nations toward a larger and more complete objective.
Ultimately, I believe the question should not only be which proposal best represents a specific cultural identity, but also which one has the strongest chance of succeeding within War Thunder’s long-term development model.
For that reason, I personally think a broader Latin American approach could provide a stronger progression path, a larger vehicle pool, greater long-term sustainability, and more opportunities for future expansion without necessarily losing its identity.
he says its for this 3 countries
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I understand that the original proposal focuses primarily on Spain, Argentina and Chile. However, I think that raises an important question: if the concept is intended to represent “Hispanic Ground Forces”, should the discussion really be limited to only those three nations?
Looking through the proposed tree itself, there are already vehicles from outside those three countries. For example, the M51A1 from Mexico appears in the lineup. That suggests the concept already extends beyond a strict Spain–Argentina–Chile framework
My point is not that the proposal is bad. On the contrary, I think it is a strong and well-researched foundation. However, if the objective is to create a competitive, sustainable and expandable nation for War Thunder, excluding other Hispanic or Latin American countries that possess unique vehicles, local modifications and domestic developments may ultimately reduce the tree’s long-term potential
Historically, Gaijin has prioritized gameplay progression, vehicle diversity, BR coverage and future expansion when introducing new nations or sub-trees. From that perspective, a broader Hispanic or Latin American approach could provide more content, fill capability gaps more effectively and offer greater longevity without necessarily sacrificing the cultural identity of the tree
The title is “Hispanic Ground Forces”, not “Spain–Argentina–Chile Ground Forces”. Therefore, I believe it is entirely reasonable to discuss whether additional Hispanic nations should be considered, especially when some are already represented within the proposal itself
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I already answered this question for someone else earlier, but the point is that I did it this way due to game restrictions. Currently, there’s the main nation, which in this case would be Spain, and it can be accompanied by up to three sub-nations. An example in the game would be Sweden accompanied by Finland, Norway, and Denmark, or Japan with Thailand, Malaysia, and Indonesia. In this case, Chile and Argentina were chosen for the reasons I explained at the beginning of the suggestion: they have more vehicles, more unique ones, and they have enough to fill top tier, something other Hispanic nations lack. After there are a maximum of three sub-nations, a few more are usually added to fill very specific gaps or they are added as premium/event content, like Mexico in this case or even Argentina itself in Germany, which is not considered a subtree in the German tree, unlike Switzerland, which is. The Latin American tree, for example, while we all like it, has many nations, but the maximum of three subnations per tree is exceeded. Therefore, even if implemented, it wouldn’t have half the vehicles suggested. Another issue is that each rank only allows up to three vehicles, which is why some of the vehicles are in folders. I understand what you’re saying, but you need to be aware of the game’s limitations to make a suggestion like this. What I will do is add interesting vehicles from other Latin American nations, but as premium/event vehicles.
In the air force tree, the third nation in the Hispanic tree is Peru because it has many good things at high ranks that help fill gaps. They also recently acquired the F-16V Block 70, making them the best candidate since they contribute top-tier vehicles, which is one of Gaijin’s requirements for being added to the game. If you don’t have top-tier vehicles, Gaijin will completely disqualify you from being a technology sub-tree.
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I’m glad you liked the idea overall. But there will always be some copy/paste to fill in the odd missing space; that’s inevitable in all tech trees. Besides, it’s something Gaijin really likes because it saves them money, although I always try to add unique things.The aerial tree will be available soon.
Yes, I’ve already added it to the tech tree as a premium vehicle; it’s pretty cool. I’ll update the suggestion when I add other Latin American vehicles to the tree.
I considered that option for a moment, but you know how it is, many people don’t like copy/paste. It’s also difficult to find the right BR considering the FV101’s ammunition might not be very powerful, and the laser rangefinder would significantly increase its BR. As you say, it would be around 7.0, given that the vehicle with the lowest BR and a laser rangefinder in the game is BR 7.3. The FV101’s camouflage schemes in Chilean service are also quite nice.
Exactly, the British already have a kind of Commonwealth in their family tree with Canada, Australia, and even India. I don’t see why we can’t have a kind of Spanish empire like in the old days, hehe
Sure, I could use some help with things in Spain. Send me a DM so we can arrange something. My Discord username is Chilean_Thunder.
I always appreciate the help; I saw your message and added the missing Spanish vehicles, which are very interesting and help fill in the gaps, especially the Spanish Lince tank it’s incredible!
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It’s an initial TT proposal. Nobody knows what direction the game will take afterward, not even Gaijin seems to know. It’s clear that the tree can expand to other nations, that’s not the point.
The main difference between this and other proposals, like BH’s, is that this one takes Spain into account. It’s hard to deny that Spain would be a profitable country from Gaijin’s economic perspective and in terms of the functionality of its technological contribution to the TT.
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Yeah that’s mostly why I want to see them :3
I see the gun a bit like a slower ROF autocannon, low pen yes (a little over 80mm), but it should comfortably deal with any of the open topped and thin skinned vehicles (e.g. light tanks and SPHs) around the BR. The HE load is the same as the 90mm on the Aubl 74 and the C13 T90, which does quite good over pressure.
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sorry