High tier CAS problem

no no they are not you have to ditch your payload in hopes to get away or get gun/missiles on first.

this would be nice but if it like sim the spaa in it would be laser beams especially if its jets

yes i also enjoy SPAA but not anymore when its completely mandatory, especially when nobody else plays them. im not gonna be sitting in SPAA for the rest of my life just to avoid CAS

there is nothing “skill curve” about the pantsir radar being spastic and not seeing a difference between a small AGM and a massive boat of a CAS aircraft.
not to mention the firing speed limit, and the sheer range from which CAS launches from (and without any sort of limit to how fast you can launch missiles).

top tier CAS is just fighters so theyre fine, and other planes like a10 or su25 just have a different playstyle, but they have enough armament and survivability at their BR to be usable. theyre still not fighters but theyre not useless.
low tier aircraft might be worse off, if theyre not specifically fighters, but i think thats a separate issue

SPAA at props only tends to be dumb for convoys (they’re dumb and need fixing). At tank battles, I can usually make 2-3 strafing passes before SPAA can get a hit on me in the Mustang Ia or hellcat. Imagine IL-2s are more vulnerable as they’re low and slow.

I won’t claim EC isn’t without issues. There’s tons of bugs, the convoy objective is impossible to contest in WW2 planes and ground battles sometimes don’t spawn for… reasons. Boats need better reward system due to effort needed and the UA cycle needs adjustment.

But at prop tiers at least, there’s quite the room for effective, fun and impactful CAS usage as wingaling’s videos demonstrate and as my own experience indicates. Sometimes you might need a dedicated escort though, but those imo are the coolest moments (big contests over a tank battle where two teams try to kill an Su/Il doing level bombing or keep it alive or formation flight).

Idk about jets though. I occasionally try them in SB but I prefer guns to missiles so I usually don’t have fun.

that might be a bug? last i remember it was able to shoot people down shortly after them spawning this is from someone who would spawn CAS/CAP even trying to fly ultra low didnt seem to help

even the tank battles that spawn will send you back to the spawn menu its broken. like you can knock out all but one spaa and if you try to get close for either dumbbombs or weapons that need to be closer itll take you out.

Removal of the Kh-38MT would help a bit

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Hmm, what I mean to say is that everybody would be playing the tanks only mode, making the mixed mode completely useless and unplayable. Everyone would either be on a plane or on a SPAA (unless you are on a tank and want to get bombed by half the enemy team). If they made a tanks only mode, the final result would be the erasure of the mixed battles one, as either nobody would play it or it would be disliked. Have in account that CAS players need ground objectives and technically, SPAAs are able to intercept munitions. So you’d basically have 20 missiles coming at you from different angles, dumb munitions and planes. It sure does not sound cool unless you like intercepting munitions. Also, anti-air systems have limited ammo, so you’d either die while trying or you’d have to go cap a point. I’d love to see SPAAs fighting for a point with nothing to attack/defend themselves (besides the ones that do have guns). The match would then be decided by who spawned something first and of course, matchmaking would have a huge role here, as some countries have better planes and some better SPAAs.

If the only reason people play something is because they’re forced to then there need to be some soul searching to be done to ask why.

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no it only happens when the plane is launching missiles, it just fully switches target.

… thats the mode we have right now

I know that’s the mode we have now. What I said is that they’d just remove the mode if everyone plays tanks only.

if thats the case then why does it matter?

So again, we shouldn’t have a tanks only mode because it would be living proof that no one actually wants to play Ground Pound Simulator?

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I would love a tanks only mode…

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“A bit”? Russia will lose like 10% of their winrate just by removing this radicilous “missile” that is actually a cruise missile

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Theyd still have the Kh-38ML, which still outranges every SAM ingame and flies at M2.0+, so its not like their CAS would be bad, they just would have to guide each weapon in and care about the beam and would lose thermals on the Su-34 (the su-30sm would still have thermals with its pod, but would lose 1 Kh-38ML to carry it iirc)

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Sadly that could really happen at lower Br’s. If they want to keep it realistic than you need the jets in ground RB becuase there is always air support. However they do need to add better spaa to add more balance and fix how intercepting weapons works again. The stinger should be good at it if they didn’t butcher it’s seeker

Why it would be a separate mode, want to play with airplanes in cas mode play that mode want to just play tanks and not be yeeted from orbit play the tank mode - it’s about giving the player a choice

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Nope

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Yea but even if they removed kh38mt and leave ml these skill issue players would have to guide one at the time. So no more team wipes within just 2 seconds

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