The research point (RP) requirements for helicopters are currently disproportionately high. For instance, the Rank 5 Wasp HAS mk.1 in 9.0 requires 150k RP, while the other Rank 5 BR 9.0 Wessex HU Mk.5 jumps significantly to 360k RP thats more than double for the same BR helicopter.
To put this in perspective, let’s compare these figures to the most expensive vehicles in the Ground Forces tree:
- Rank 5: The ZSU-37-2 requires 120k RP.
- Rank 6: The T-72A requires 220k RP.
The gap is massive. Even with the ability to research helicopters using ground vehicles, 360k RP for a Rank 5 vehicle is excessive.
Proposed Solution
The fix is straightforward:
- for the Rank 5 starter helicopters make them the baseline of RP costs.
- Standardize the RP costs to match the progression system used in the Ground and Air tech trees
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You have to compare this way:
How many RP is the way from top to bottom of the tree?
Heli grind got a lot easier with addition of research via ground vehicles, no need for another buff since there are not many vehicles on the tree themselves.
we are talking the almost the price of a gripen A for a 10.3 helicopter…
this is literally the third helicopter (9.0) in the tree for the price of a Phantom FGR.2 (12.0)
and how much of an RP you had to gain before to be able to research FGR.2 do the math!
and to add to this consider that helicopter rewards are lackluster, ground rewards to helicopters are lower than researching another ground vehicle
rewards are not based on action but activity, spend more time with them in game to gain more rp
i can spend all game shooting people with atgm’s (i hate this playstyle but gaijin nerfed heli’s so you cant get close without certain death) and get 6 kills and still get only 2K RP (with a premium account)
i did the math you need 1,080,100 RP to get the FGR.2, in contrast if i wanted to let say get the 12.0 apache mk1 ill have to get 1,290,000 RP, add this with the fact that Planes and tanks have their own game modes and heli’s can only do the unrewarding and boring Heli PvE or air to ground PvP with little to no rewards in contrast to air and ground RB
i fully agree its bs because the only 3 ways to grind helis is either use tanks and set it to research helis. use helis in grb which is shit and nets f all, or to play heli pve which is by far even more shit than grb
and they are all shit give next to no rp and on top of that every single heli costs so fucking much
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Let alone you have to grind 6 vehicles in rank 6 which costs around 1.1 mil and im not counting below that rank while theres only 4 helis in the entire tree. Oh yeah give heli their own PvP modes so you all would get cucked by DIRCM/FnF helis. I have spaded Z10ME in the second day of the introduction. Maybe you dont get to play very sufficiently on the helis
I totally agree with you, no idea why you’re being disputed for simply suggesting the RP remain uniform across all vehicle types… Which by the way, with the exception of helicopters, it is actually pretty consistent between tree, so there’s no reason helicopters shouldn’t be either.
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Heli PvE gives no rewards. Just grind the full ground tech tree then research helis through ground. Or buy your way to top tier helis. Playing the huey in PvE is physically painful.
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Going by your logic here-- If you believe total RP is what matters, then why is Israel’s (a nation that starts at tier 5) M109 the same research cost as USA’s M109? The total research points for each nation’s tech trees are drastically different as a result of the amount of vehicles in each tree, so if total research has to be consistent, then why don’t vehicles for smaller nations cost more RP than ones for larger nations?
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You are comparing nations, not the vehicles themselves.
I gave you an example with vehicles. US M109 to Israeli M109, both 46,000rp but Israel’s M109 is the first vehicle in the entire line, while the US is not. In all of your comments, you are referring to the total amount of RP for helicopter trees being much lower, so each vehicle should cost more, but I am giving you examples of how that rule never applies elsewhere in the game.
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Vehicle Count on different nations tree is not the matter of discussion, thats where you dont understand my point.
who hurt you, the helicopters are unfairly priced going from 150k to 360k is an insane mark up, even with a premium helicopter its insanly dificult to grind especially since heli ec 9.3> is filled with FnF heli’s and you can barely get score/RP and PvP you are a sitting duck compared to planes with better armements and anti air with guided munitions
I don’t think you understand the comparison I am making at all. The real reason helicopters cost so much RP is because they haven’t introduced rank 8 for helicopters yet. This can be proved by comparing helicopter research to Bluewater research costs, both of which I think are outrageously high for rank 6-- because rank 6 is second from top tier, while with tanks and aircraft it is not. Helicopters need rank 8, this would solve the problem.
The only reason I replied to you is because your implication that, in the simplest terms, less vehicles should mean higher RP cost, is not observed anywhere else in the game. You just made it up
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