Helicopter PVE player here.
Very recent update upgraded unfarily MBTs and APCs from convoys.
Not only the convoys were near impossible to approach because of the gepards, but now MBTs and APCs snipe you with a single shots with 50cals 400 to 600 meters away.
Helicopter PVE is becoming more and more unplayable, to the point where it is not fair nor worth at all. We are losing more by playing this game mode. We are literally paying to play it and people are just leaving the match 5 mins after joining it.
We do not want to spend 3 hours in a single unplayable game because we’re alone dealing with unfairly accurate AIs. Some nations are simply unable to deal with convoy objectives because their ATGMs only reach targets under 3km.
I come here sharing a real issue that requires a fix… How much time did it take you to write that reply ? I don’t know if that is a joke (and pardon me if it is, but i did not ffind it funny) but can you not justify mediocrity by your very own opinion presented as absolute truth ? What if everyone did that ? Can you imagine how much of a bad influence this could be ?
On what do you base your conviction that all AIs should absolutely have robotic aim and that it’s okay ?
From that statement, it would be okay if all AIs inherently possessed perfect aiming abilities… The same players requesting everyday more and more realism now can just overlook the fact that AI should be designed to operate within realistic parameters ?
What’s the point of having different difficulties in all other gamemodes then if it’s obvious that AIs should fairly snipe your helicopter pilot 2km away with a handheld machinegun ?
You know, I think the devs should listen to you, you’d save them a lot of time, they’ve spent so much time developing models, and algorithms to aim in a particular way that accounted balance, realism and such things… they should not waste more time developing different aiming models & mechanics, that’s definitely pointless… (As you can see, my jokes aren’t any better)
Do you see now why we cannot just oversimplificate this problem, ignoring game design, player experience, and even more parameters just to say “ok it’s AI, it’s better than you poor human” ?
Okay that’s very interesting thank you.
How is that so ? I was indeed playing in Rocky Canyon two times, also Afghanistan.
I flew to a convoy, and encountered the same issue.
Can you date since when ? Do you have more information about that ? I’d appreciate
Rocky Canyons M60 and M113s have always been cracked, I know the S’hots/M113s that spawn on other maps can fire at your helicopter but they’re nowhere near as accurate or lethal.
I’ll test some stuff on other maps in a moment, I just doubt anything would have changed since gaijin generally doesn’t touch this mode.
That is another oversimplification that fails to account for many parameters instead of building a constructive criticism.
Take a bit more time to read the problem : The problem is AI being more than accurate at unrealistic ranges… regardless of your helicopter, premium or not, you are getting sniped.
I don’t know if you realize that this problem is even worse for premium players ! You are throwing an argument against your own point. These guys could have paid a helicopter 50$ and wouldn’t be able to use it decently because the AI is sniping them with a Browning M1 ! I would ask for a refund if this happened to me, wouldn’t you ? (spoiler : we dont do that here)
Okay, thank you very much. I’ll keep an eye too, that’s a shame…
This game mode is never getting any revamp, it’s the only one that allows the player to use helicopters without immediately dying.
In ground battles, helicopters are just obsolete. Planes are faster, can carry more, and are constantly looking for quasi-static targets that heli are in this game mode… Arcade defense recently introduced helicopters, but the new anti air that keeps periodically spawning is just ridiculously accurate. Moreover, most “low br” helicopters cannot pen arcade defense AI MBTs, and these same AIs are returning fire 50 against 1 with high accuracy too.
We’re paying to play these game modes, this is becoming ridiculous
Just tried Afghanistan in the 24D, the convoys are how I remember them, the M113s can sometimes do damage from close range and the Sho’ts cause a tracer laser party and sometimes do superficial fuselage damage.
Nothing like the absurdity of the Rocky Canyon convoys where the 113s and M60s will shoot your engines out consistently from 2,000m. I’ll keep playing around tho, I’ll try high tier too
Ok it seems then that it is very particular to Rocky Canyon.
I haven’t seen that problem anywhere else yet, but will keep an eye.
Cannot play high tier yet
i haven’t even been able to get close to a high tier convoy yet, games are too full and they get wiped from 8,000m+ by Vikhrs/Spikes/Hellfires. I don’t think anything has changed regarding low tier, I hovered in front of some Sho’ts in a Cobra and they didn’t even hit me.
I think you just got Rocky Canyon’d, I’m repeating myself a lot but this map is just absurd, the high altitudes are horrible for low tier/stock helicopters, the bombing bases stop respawning after only a few have been destroyed and the convoys are overtuned, only the Bradleys are killable up close as the M113s/M60s/ZA-35s/M42s will laser you out of the sky if you get close. Good luck playing this in anything less than an Mi-24/Tzefa B with ATGMs.
Like Tank Assault Sinai; this map being in rotation is a net negative for the game but so little feedback on the PvE side gets anywhere. Hell it’s been over a year and top tier Jets still can’t get into Air Assault.
Edit: Doesn’t look like there has been any changes regarding the convoys recently, this all seems normal to me
Okay i’ve seen your footage and indeed you can approach these MBTs, Light tanks & APCs very close and there is no laser.
Well I guess we now have an answer : Rocky Canyon is a bugged map and it has been for a long time.
As if the current system is anything but torture.
I know it wasn’t sunshine and rainbows in the PVP times either, but right now its downright ATROCIOUS.
3 hours of gameplay 20-30k RP (depending on premium status). 3 hours of mind numbing gameplay for mediocre rewards.
If this gamemode is anything like when i left it (~6 months ago) , then the AI are still godlike, they still desync into the ground, making targeting impossible, and the KA-50 still looks tempting.
All of these negative effects are a direct result of neglect on behalf of gaijin.
Its hard to survive gepards at close range in a modern helicopter, let alone a MI-4.
I just ignore the moving targets now anyhow. Just use rockets on ground targets. I actually finished a match for like a century and still, only gave me like 22k RP. I need 30+ games at this rate, 100 hours to just get a 10.3 heli.
