Helicopter **PROPOSED** battle rating change list

Compared to something like the AH-1W which gets IRCM, MAWS, LWS & a built in gun. I dont think being 0.3 BR lower is actually that unreasoanble.

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Maybe, I would like to see this thing br lowered to 10.7 too then:

It’s straight downgrade to CBT (no AAMs, no flares/chaffs, 12.7 turret). I used to think that they just don’t want to have 8 Hellfires at 10.7, but if it isn’t an issue, there is no reason for that early variant of International prototype to sit at 11.0.

The “flying tank” comes primarily from it being able to resist small arms fire. Most of the stuff shooting at it in War Thunder is NOT small arms fire. If infantry would easily down it with assault rifles you might have a point.

Being hit by a 35mm APHE and co or even a stinger would not be something it would be likely to survive, or remain flying afterward.

The lack of CMs, would imo put that also at 10.7.

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I guess 9mm can blow the lung out of the helicopter

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It’s actually pretty well known for being pretty much immune to 12.7mm rounds, and even resistant to 20mms all the way up to the cockpit being resistant to 37mms.

So yes, the “flying tank” is extremely weak in game. And things like the AH-1G are extremely strong as they can take many hits.

Lastly, the ircm, exhaust vents and so on barely do anything to prevent stinger hits on the helis. Fim-92s don’t care about any of this, not even flares.

Wow, this is insanely nerfed🤣 Please show me then some can shoot down mi-24 with a simple pistol….

In simple terms, I wasted my time grinding helicopters. They are absolutely pointless. The damage model has nothing in common with reality. Any hit counts as if you’re flying an empty helicopter with no armor, no systems, nothing. Everything feels like it’s made of air.

The aviation nerf is insane, especially for helicopters. I’m honestly shocked by the developers. Most likely I won’t play helicopters anymore, or I’ll stop playing this game entirely. There’s no point. I’d rather move to DCS.

how the f is sweden in the list

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because they have Helis

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they have?

To be fair, that was mag dumping two magazines into it at super close range. Albeit this might warrant a nerf to the infantry gun more than a buff to the Mi-24.

On topic. Tiger at the current BR is a joke. No DIRCM, no gun, massively worse ATGM. It’s incredibly overtiered.

No.

Literally mag dumped two full assault rifle magazines into it?

MAC-11 is an automatic pistol

.380 ACP (9×17mm). And it’s closer to an Uzi it seems. Not exactly a pistol. The heli also tanked the first magazine with zero issue and it looks as if on the second he got lucky and hit the fuel tank several times.

It’s pistol ammo, doesn’t have anywhere near the stopping or penetrative power of rifle ammo

I actually doubt that with how the rotor and transmission hub is modelled

but if anything less than a violent explosion isn’t damage what’s the point of talking to you

edit: you don’t even play helicopters why do I even bother

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Make the Mi-24s great again! Lol

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So it’s historically inaccurate right now?
If that’s the case, if we get evidence for hellfire removal, it could be bumped down.

Add whatever evidence you can garner, and formulate it like I had on my other posts and I will add it.

It seems to be a wierd amalgam of mutliple lynx variants or something. Not strictly speaking accurate to the AH1 but not implicitly inaccurate to the Lynx in general.

So its tricky