This Topic about the He 177 With two 30 mm MK 101
A interesting He 177 prototype would nice to see added !
He 177 A-1/V12
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Designation: V12 was one of the early He 177A‑1 prototypes, part of the first batch of developmental aircraft.
Purpose: It was used for testing heavy armament configurations, particularly the installation of 30 mm MK 101 cannon in the nose.
Conversion Program: Known as the R1 conversion, this program aimed to rearm twelve He 177A‑1 bombers with fixed forward‑firing cannon to act as long‑range “destroyers” against enemy shipping and bomber formations.
IRL images / book / art :
Armament specification :
Armament : Two 30 mm MK 101 cannon mounted in the nose.
Performance Impact : Flight trials revealed significant drawbacks:
Loss of 100 km/h in speed.
Reduction in bomb load to 1,000 kg.
Nose (upper) : 1 × MG 81 (7.92 mm light machine gun)
Nose (lower) : 2 × MK 101 (30 mm cannon, semi‑fixed forward firing)
Dorsal (forward) : 1 × MG 131 (13 mm heavy machine gun in FDL B 131/1A mount)
Ventral : 1 × MG 131 (13 mm heavy machine gun)
Tail : 1 × MG 131A1 (13 mm heavy machine gun in tail position)
Where should the He 177 A-1/V12 be added?
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There was also a claims that 5 He 177 A3/R-5 have 75mm gun but i can’t find any irl images maybe it’s fake.
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Could it just be a mod to the existing plane or did the flight structure need to be changed to accommodate the cannons?
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the He 177 A‑1/V12 required ( structural changes to the nose section ) and weight distribution to mount the MK 101 cannons.
Basically another He 177 with different makeup 💄
Also the He 177 we have in game have different nose section
A-5
A-1/V12
TT33a
February 23, 2026, 2:38pm
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And earlier (fire prone DB 606) engine, a shorter fuselage, weaker defensive armament, & dive brakes:
yes it was 100km slower and loud out limited for 1000kgs of bombs if i recall !
TT33a
February 23, 2026, 6:04pm
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He 177 A-1/U1 cockpit with Stuvi 5 B dive bombing sight & Mk 101 controls marked in red:
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all thanks to you !
thank you a lot for these good information !
i made a the suggestion about the He 177 A1 last day !
am not sure about the armaments put i did put these as place holder !
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There was also a version with BK 5, but i just dont think its all that usefull, its still a big bomber in terms of handling.
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true i was gonna make a suggestion about it but i could not find good amount of info / irl photos i am not sure if it’s even built !
TT33a
March 5, 2026, 8:45pm
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Actually, I think that someone missed a decimal place or added an extra zero there:
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TT33a
March 5, 2026, 9:53pm
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TT33a
March 5, 2026, 10:02pm
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Odd…it should be showing this:
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they wanted to make Heinkel He 177 into a destroyer aircraft XD?
i think they drink to much beer
TT33a
March 6, 2026, 8:52am
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It is just another name for this aircraft. Here is a page from that website:
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sorry i ask a lot does this book or website have info about the Fw 190 D-14 Armaments? to?
TT33a
March 19, 2026, 8:22am
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No idea…Try a search/does that website function for you today?
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TT33a
March 19, 2026, 8:51am
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Still? Unfortunately, I do not know what to do about that. Maybe they hate your internets
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