Hawker Hunter FGA.71, Chile's hunting eagle

Would you like to see this aircraft in-game?
  • Yes
  • No
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If so, which of the modernization versions would you like to see
  • Unmodified (essentially a Hunter FGA.9 with no Sidewinders but improved air to ground loadout options including American bombs and SURA rockets)
  • Beagle crisis modification (The same as the previous just with Shafrir 2 missile compatibility)
  • Águila upgrade (includes compatibility with Shafrir 2 missiles, RWR, countermeasure pods and a modernized cockpit)
  • All of them
  • A couple of the versions but not all (please specify in a reply)
  • I voted no
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Introduction

The Hawker Hunter FGA.71 was an export version of the Hunter based on the Hawker Hunter FGA.9 designated for export to the Chilean Air Force. While that fact alone may seem deceptively insignificant, the Chilean Hunters were used operationally multiple times and were modified over the years in order to expand their capabilities and service life. The Chilean Hawker Hunters were among the last to remain in service in any Air Force, being withdrawn from service only in 1995.

Disclaimer:

  • The following suggestion is a sort of family suggestion of the Hunter FGA.71 containing multiple stages of it’s modifications over the years. despite this the suggestion also occasionally brings up a very similar model, the Hunter FR.71, as it saw a similar set of modifications and I only managed to get photos of it’s cockpit and not the FGA.71’s. It is important to note that any mentions of the Hunter FR.71 are only done to reference modifications of the Hunter FGA.71 I didn’t have photos for and it is not included in this suggestion.

1483118054_Unmodified2.jpg.1eccd679270fd - A Hunter FGA.71 in the original configuration, not much different than the Hunter FGA.9.

Acquisition

In 1965 the Chilean Air Force found itself in a predicament as they were refused the purchase of then modern jet fighters from the United States. With this refusal Chile decided to turn to the UK on which it previously relied in order to acquire military jets to procure a new jet fighter for their air force. The Chilean Air Force was mainly drawn towards the Hawker Hunter, and an order for the first batch of 21 Hunters was placed on October of 1966 who became the first Hunter FGA.71s. Chile continued to procure more Hunters down the line, some second hand from the Belgian and Dutch air forces. Technically speaking not all of the Hunters acquired were exactly the same in terms of onboard tech, but for the sake of this suggestion the differences aren’t very noticeable and they were mostly brought up to the same standard over time. The Hunter FGA.71s saw service in the Chilean Air Force under air groups number 7, 8 and 9.

unmodified.jpg.b6e156c0754c5dfe9d0552fe1 - Another view of an unmodified Hunter FGA.71.

The first (controversial) use of the Hunters in conflict

The Hunter FGA.71 was first used in conflict in an incident which is considered to be rather controversial, as it involved their use in suppression of the nation’s own people. several Hunters of group number 7 were used on September 11th 1973 to strike targets within the capital Santiago including radio stations and the residence of the republic’s president as a part of a broader conflict which resulted in the overthrowing of the republic’s government.

487356562_HunterswithShafrir2intheBeagle - Modified Hunter FGA.71s of group number 9 during the Beagle crisis carrying Shafrir 2 missiles.

The fist modification of the Hunters, born under conflict

In 1977 it became clear to the Chilean Air Force that a conflict with the neighboring country Argentina was imminent. This proved to be incredibly problematic as the most capable fighters Chile had access to then, the American F-5, lacked spare parts due to an American embargo. As a result of this the Maintenance Wing of the Chilean Air Force urgently modified 6 of group 9’s Hunter FGA.71s to carry Rafael Shafrir 2 missiles. The Shafrir 2 missiles were originally purchased from Israel with the intention of using them on the F-5s instead of AIM-9 Sidewinders due to the American embargo, but with the F-5s being in bad shape it was decided to use them on the Hunters instead. This is considered to be the first major modification of the Hunter FGA.71, and it was standardized on all of the Hunter FGA.71s of the Chilean Air Force in 1983. The 6 Hunters that were modified to carry Shafrir 2 missiles before 1978 were put on quick reaction alert in the Southern part of Chile during the Beagle crisis of 1978 against Argentina to be used in a defensive role.

335404715_modernhunter.jpg.2f915c8290484 - A modernized Hunter FGA.71 Águila. Note the Caiquén II RWR’s antennas on the tail and the Eclipse flare/chaff pod near the engine exhaust.

The Águila program

During the early 80’s Chile commenced an upgrade program for the Hunter FGA.71s due to concerns regarding their usefulness in case of further conflict with Argentina. The program called “Águila” (Eagle in Spanish) included, as previously mentioned, a standardization of the capability to carry Shafrir 2 missiles which was done in 1983, but it wasn’t the only part of the modernization. The Electronics Department of the Chilean Airforce, which was later integrated into the national ENEAR company, was tasked with the development of various devices that would increase the combat effectiveness of the Chilean Hunters (this included more variants than just the FGA.71).

The main upgrade that was developed was an indigenous RWR system called the Caiquén. Not much is known about the original model (supposedly some Hunters had it for a short time), but the main version used ended up being the second model, the Caiquén II. The Caiquén II can be distinguished thanks to a set of 3 radars located at the tip of the vertical stabilizer and the tail bullet. The system weighs merely 10kg and gives the Hunter FGA.71 a full 360 degree warning coverage in azimuth +/- 40 degrees and is capable of identifying the direction of the received radar signal as well as the type of radar used to emit the signal. In addition to the AAMs and RWR the Águila program also included the development of a domestic countermeasure pod called Eclipse. This CM pod is capable of using MJU-7/B flares and RR-170 chaff charges. Each of the carried pods was capable of housing 40 total charges as can be seen in photos for a total of 80 charges. One of the more impressive capabilities of the Eclipse system is it’s full integration with the Caiquén II RWR, as the pilot can choose whether to use the Eclipse pods manually or have them be used automatically based on input from the RWR. Finally, the Águila program also included a modernization of the cockpit that, among other purposes, was also meant to standardize a similar cockpit layout for all Hunter versions in Chilean use (this includes the FGA.71, FR.71 and T.72). Some less notable upgrades were also included such as new communications and navigation equipment as well as a new motor ignition system.

While the original aim of the program was to upgrade the entire Hunter fleet, only about 20 Hunters were upgraded, of which only 13 were of the FGA.71 variant.

1523388180_InflightwithShafrir2.jpg.b2e0 - A Hunter FGA.71 Águila armed with Shafrir 2 missiles in flight.

The end of service

over the years the Hunter fleet was reduced with group number 8 eventually becoming the only air group of the Chilean Air Force that still operated the aircraft. The modernized Águila airframes continued to be used in the 90’s in air patrols but in 1995 the Chilean Hunters finally retired, being among the longest serving Hawker Hunters in the world.

Specifications

Country of origin: UK (Upgraded by Chile)

Type: Jet Fighter/Attacker

Length: 14 m

Height: 4 m

Wing span: 10.3 m

Wing surface area: 32.4 m^2

Powerplant: Rolls-Royce Avon 207 rated at 4,536 kgf of thrust

Max speed: 1,128 km/h

Max altitude: 15,850 m

Range: 715 km

Weight: Empty: 6,532 kg, Fully loaded: 11,158 kg

Armaments:

  • Regular FGA.71: 4 x 30mm ADEN cannons with 150 rounds per gun, 32 x 81mm SURA P3 rockets, 72 x 68mm Matra SNEB rockets, Mk.81, 82 and 83 bombs in weights of up to 3,000 lbs, 4 x Cardoen CB-250-K cluster bombs, 2 x Cardoen CB-500-K cluster bombs, 2 x 230 Gallon external fuel tanks (drop tanks).
  • Added capabilities with the beagle crisis and Águila upgrades: 2 x Shafrir 2 air to air missiles.

Additional systems:

  • With the Águila upgrade: Caiquén II RWR, 2 x Eclipse flare/chaff pods with 40 charges each (80 total).

Additional photos and media

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1561588540_Hunterarmaments.jpg.e95d6148b - A Hunter FGA.71 with it’s armament options.

2071680468_250poundbombsonTERcarrier.jpg - 3 x 250 lbs Mk.81 bombs carried by a Hunter FGA.71 on a TER carrier.

629392755_SURA81mm.jpg.ee5dd77af6e2ce898 - On the inner pylon: 81mm SURA rockets.

233404704_CardoenCB-250-Kclusterbomb.jpg - Cardoen CB-250-k cluster bomb.

CB-500-K.jpg.d308757befe5dcf69fde9ccfdca - Cardoen CB-500-K cluster bomb.

1924263598_CaiquenIIRWRantennasEclipseCM - Closer look at the tail section of an upgraded hunter showing the RWR antennas.

1749643369_Eclipsefalreandchaffpod.jpg.5 - Closer look at the Eclipse countermeasure pod

1105981008_FR.71cockpit.jpg.18f2f2e9b899 - Modernized cockpit of a Hunter FR.71 (couldn’t find one of an FGA.71 but they are similar).

2007759341_FR.71Acockpit.jpg.572867dab22 - Additional photo of the modernized cockpit.

1486246675_shafrir2launch.jpg.9382cb0e87 - An upgraded Hunter FGA.71 firing off a Shafrir 2 missile.

https://youtu.be/HwOsy8-5S9A

Sources

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Fuerza Aérea de Chile

HUNTER en CHILE

[2.0] Hunter In British & Foreign Service

Hawker Hunter 1951 to 2007 - Google Books

Hawker “Hunter”, el último vuelo del cazador - Noticias Defensa Ayer Noticia

First Hawker Hunter in the Chilean Air Force by Julio Arrospide

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absolutely +1, I would like to see it in its final configuration, with all the improvements implemented

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I would love to see it in the British tree! Since Gaijin said that we will get a better hunter, this would be perfect

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Actually the Hawker Hunter Águila could carry up to 4 Eclipse flare/chaff pods as shown in the following images since they had up to 4 supports for this, it was not common to see them with 4 since in training they only used 1, but the supports are there, which would give a total of 240 charges in total.

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yeah i support it, as long as this means britain players will stop crying over the swedish hunter

Never my friend, never…

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Question is if those hang points were ever used… the few photos that actually show Eclipse pods show only a pair being mounted. This is good to have on this thread either way, thanks.

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Here I found a photo where you can see a Hunter Aguila using two countermeasure dispensers, one on each side of the plane

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Nice find. This actually reminded me that I noticed my count of the CM charges per pod was wrong, it’s clearly 40 charges per Eclipse pod for a total of 80, I fixed it in the post. The practice bomb rack in your photo is also quite interesting.

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The other issue is that the FGA and FR cabins should be the same once modernized to the Aguila standard, so these photos also serve to represent the version of the suggestion

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I already have these exact photos in the suggestion if you look in the Additional photos and media tab

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Hunter with Mk 80 series bombs? Yes, please

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I found a photo of the radar, no idea what model it is but maybe it is the same as the Hunter FGA.9 (AN/APG-30 radar?) since the one from Chile is the export version of that model, I leave the photo here just in case

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I leave a couple of videos about the weapons of the Chilean Hawker Hunters

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Today I found this from the book “Jane’s Avionics 1987-88” where Caiquén II and Eclipse are mentioned, in addition to giving us a detailed description of the electronic warfare systems, it tells us the exact amount of countermeasures that Eclipse uses, it mentions that each launcher has 40 Chaff and 20 flares, it also says that the Hawker Hunter carries 2 eclipse systems which I already demonstrated in the image above, so in total it can carry 120 countermeasures (80 Chaff and 40 flares).

The countermeasure count is 40 per pod, Jan’es may say 60 but we have actual photos of the pods, one of which you have posted, and it’s not that hard to count there are 40 cells and not 60.

fun fact: one chilean hunter was sold to embraer and was used as a chase plane,
she then was sold again in 2018, right now she is in airworthy status and her most recent flight was just a couple days ago!
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This isn’t the suggested variant, the aircraft you posted is a Hunter T.72.

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That is actually the Hunter T.72 which is the combat trainer variant of the FGA.71

I know that every Trainer variant of the Hunter is armed with at least one ADEN cannon with some nations having 2 ADEN’s. The T.72 should be able to use most of the secondary ordinances that the FGA.71 uses as well

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I found these photos of the Hawker Hunter FR71A (number 734) from Chile, the photos were taken at the Chilean Aeronautical Museum, in them you can see the modernized cockpit, we can know that this was one of the modernized ones because it is Number 734 that was one of those that was modernized to the Aguila standard, in the photo you can see interesting details:

  1. View from above where many details can be seen, the Spanish word “Reloj” can be seen on the top right which means clock

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  1. The second photo and the most interesting for me shows the central area in great detail, you can see the Chilean RWR Caiquén II in the right area where the symbol of an airplane and the words “course” and “distance” appear.

  1. The third photo shows us some details of the left area where the pilot is sitting.

I think these photos would be enough to be able to model the cabin correctly in case this Hawker Hunter from Chile is added since the Aguila modernization standardized all the cabins even though they were slightly different models.

Sources:

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