Does anyone have any information on how many weapons the different Hawk variants can carry? When I tried searching for information, all I could find was how much weight it can carry on its hardpoints, but I couldn’t find any details such as “the Hawk carries X amount of bombs or missiles”.
If there is a scheme of the armament for the different Hawk variants such as the T1, 100, 200, etc. I would like to see them
You can read the suggestions here on the forums, they are well researched
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I’ve seen all these threads, but from them I could only understand the number of weapon suspension points on different Hawk modifications and how much weight of suspended weapons they can carry, but I didn’t find any specifics on the quantity, for example, how many bombs does the T1 carry?
The only thing is, after I created this topic I found this scheme, but I’m not sure how true it is
with more modern ones everything is clear, because each pylon in the game will most likely accept agm65/aim9/gunpod
8 typically, with a notional 9th if the gun pod isn’t carried
Also 8 SNEB rocket pods
I don’t have photos of T.1/Mk.50/60 series with a bomb fitted on the centreline hard-point, but a central ERU pylon was displayed on the ground behind XX156 at Farnborough in 1976
A more streamlined ERU was used to carry Sea Eagle during trials in 1983
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which seems to be the same one carrying bombs on ZH200 (the Hawk 200 preproduction aircraft with no wingtip rails)
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and production Hawk 120s
AIM-9s could be carried on either the inboard and outboard hard-points depending on how they were wired so typically only 2 were carried.
RAF T.1As usually only had the inboard pylons but some examples were modified with outboard pylons for trials (XX156, XX258, XX280, and XX205 all had 4 wing pylons at some point)
Carrying 4 AIM-9s on the outboard with a dual-rail launcher was more likely than wiring all 4 pylons for sidewinder, since it left the inboard free for fuel tanks.
Some of UAE’s Mk.63s were fitted with additional wingtip rails like their Mk.103s - they’ve since been transferred to Jordan
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Thank you very much for these photos!
By the way, does T1 have any countermeasures?
I don’t believe so, you’d normally know by looking at the tail for the CM’s but i haven’t seen any hawks aside from the 100 and 200 with CM’s
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Then we can only hope that it will not get a high BR when it is added.
Personally, I hope that T1 will be an analogue of alphajet/iar93 with BR 9.0-9.3 in GRB
I don’t think any variants that had them before the Hawk 100/200-series
The dispensers for those fit in the box above the engine exhaust and brake chute, below the rudder, so it’s quite distinctive if a Hawk is fitted for them or not
Ed:- Phoenix RX0 already explained above
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See its the Finnish Hawk MK.51A have 9M’s and new cockpits with IFF, its likely they will not be added to the game to avoid balancing issues.
As some people have stated gaijin could just add CM’s to the vehicles in a case similar to the F-5C or the F15A. I doubt gaijin would do this for the Finnish Hawks but whos to say. Regardless they could just add MK.66 or the standard MK.51 since all of them have been tested with R60 or can be added without.
Even with the Hawks like the MK.66 being planned for service until the 2030’s theres been no plans to add CM’s to them since they have mainly been used for training exclusively.
MK.66 Hawks also have a unique HUD and cockpit for the upgraded avionics.
I feel that if gaijin was to add trainer esq vehicles to warthunder they would add something like the Folland Gnat before the Hawks. Though id like to see both, and also a Yak 130 if we got a trainer jet focused update.
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You sure about this mate? Both the Release to Service and Flight Manual have two pylons listed. I’m aware Mk.60’s had strengthened wings to accommodate the two additional pylons.
Lot of the serials listed are demo fits for airshow static display, however
First RAF example would be XX156 with 4 SNEB pods back in 1975 - this was the second RAF pre-production Hawk and the plane used for RAF weapon trials and other Hawk development at RAE Bedford. As such it was the first Hawk painted in the grey-green tactical camo scheme, but with a light-grey underside that wasn’t included on the eventual service camouflage scheme for Tactical Weapons Unit Hawks. There’s also photos of it in flight with CATM-9s and 100gal tanks
XX156
From Aeroguide 1’s book
Other T.1 serials with the outboards for airshow static display etc. are using the latent mounting for the outboards that have been there since the first T.1s.
Photos of BAE’s 1983 Sea Eagle flight trials with XX258 show the additional outboard pylons fitted with CATM-9s, and (likely empty) 190gal drops tanks on the standard inboard pylon.
Like I said at the time though, only the 2 inboard wing pylons were fitted in service by the RAF on Hawk, and the extra ones were for trials, not in service. So would mean modification to get them to function.
The trials with XX156 would have informed the decision not to put the additional pylons on in regular service. AFAIK it was limited to 2+centreline due to poor performance, and export Hawk Mk.50 offered a higher-rated powerplant specifically to better support weapons on the 5 pylons (4+centreline).
The strengthening for Mk.60 is not for additional pylons over Mk.50, but for additional capacity on those pylons.
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Did you just get some new manuals by any chance?