watch as in GRB it goes to 11.3
Yeah i need to ARB with it to get them xd I like it a lot though tbh I’m a massive fan of subsonic attackers
US: 6x AGM-65D + 4x Aim-9L + 480 CMs. = 10.7
Britain: 4x AGM-65B + 60 CMs = 10.7
Gotta love that and yeah. definetly unfair to leave Britain with AGM-65Bs at 10.7 :D
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nearly 300KMPH slower platform though, much larger as well.
though I didn’t realise the A10A late had 65D
better than none at all though which is what it was xd
does the hawk 200 have access to better mavs?
Sweden also has a 4x Maverick platform at 10.7, but it’s supersonic, AJS37
There are some drawbacks like no internal gun but if you use it as a missile carrier then it works well, the high speed and acceleration lets you do the rearm and return process much faster
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I think the 8x more CMs and the ability to run both A2A and A2G weapons and having a larger overall weapons load mitigates that greatly.
Especially when we also consider the RDA is at 11.0 and we dont have a single 11.0 ground vehicle.
200 to 10.3
200 RDA to 10.7 maybe getting Ds instead of Bs too
and I think it would be reasonably fair match to the A-10A and AJS37s
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Both get Bs
KMPH is a new one
Realistically though I always end up around 700-800 kph not exactly anything fancy
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Alpha jet is 100 MPH too fast
Alpha Jet overperforms in controllable AOA
Alpha Jet Overperforms unacceptably in Sustained G
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Those are the ones! Thanks
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4 x 9L on a decent platform with Counter measures completely invalidates the 10.3 in general.
it can also get past 1000kph in a dive if not more I don’t find in ARB the Hawk 200 at 10.7 unreasonable tbf, I think at 10.3 it would be massively oppressive to 9.3.
the AJS37 is 10.7???
I mean in IRL if they had access to more / different advanced AGM
Really? i managed to keep it above 900 in a dogfight in an F8E in my one game xd never got the kill but just got into a position of never ending looping / twisting.
How is it a new one? it’s not wrong it’s just not a common abbreviation. used in sri lanka if I recall rightly.
Both hawks can run ATG and ATA weapons. just not as many xd
For pure A2A, Id rather bring the Sea Harrier FRS1e, Sure its only got 2x 9Ls, and not 4, but I really dont think 9Ls are that big of a deal. At least for GRB. And thats all whilst being faster, handling better and having a radar
and besides, you have aircraft like the SU-22M3 with 6x R-60MKs at 10.0, That has double the speed of the Hawk 200 and a lower BR and more missiles.
I dont think Gaijin really cares about CAP performance in GRB,
In GRB, yes. Though I think this is actually reasonable given the CM sitation for it.
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Sure, but it plays an important role. For the Hawk 200 to match the 10.3 A-10A’s A2A fit, it can only run 1/3rd the AGM-65Bs at 10.7
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With how many vehicles there are in the game and with seperate BRs for each mode I feel like Gaijin doesn’t make nearly good enough use of our BR suggestions. They only change a handful of vehicles each time.
For example I was shocked to see that the F-4J (the US one) was 12.0 in ARB but only 10.7 in GRB. Meanwhile the Tornado F3 is also 12.0 in air, but 11.3 in ground.
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in GRB id rather the hawk 200 I think man, 4 x9L and the same cannons, but slightly better avionics is well worth it.
They generally do-
The SU22M3 has what? 2 Fire and forget guided missiles?
though I thought it was 10.7 or 11.0 not 10.0 unless it’s the one without any counter measures at all
just double checked it’s the German one! funny that the German SU22M3 is 10,0**
though it is because it doesn’t get any TV guided munitions and KH29Ls are pretty A** to use. That is why it’s 10.0 (also it’s German)
I thought it was 11.0 tbh though this is the one that has to choose between a gun and CM’s no?
I reckon it’s cause I come across it at 11.0 a lot.
I find the F4J to be under BR’d for GRB, it’s quite funny though cause the F4E is 11.3 in GRB while the J sits at 10.7.
Though it’s radar set is pretty shody compared to the tornados capabilities as CAP.
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The F-4E BR might be because of the few guided weapons it can take, but those are still overvalued IMO.
True, but that goes for most fighters I think, the F3 does have a goated radar. For CAP I’d still rate them pretty close due to Phantom having HMS and being more flexible when it comes to dogfighting.
Edit: I take back that bit about F-4E BR being overvalued, I forgot it can take 6x AGM-65 and/or TV bombs in addition to it’s regular A2A weapons.
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But it has 6x All-aspect IR missiles, thats my point. If the Hawk 200 has to be 10.7 because it might run 4x Aim-9ls, then surely the SU-22s must be at least 10.7 because they have 6x All-aspects.
Soviet one also has the same A2A weapons.
Heck, the Tornado IDS have 2x 9Ls at 10.0
Yes, CMs and Guns are entirely via external pods and they share a pylon, that also happens to be used for A2G too.
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it’s a fantastic 11.3 CAS plane TBH 90 CMs, good agile eagle platform, 6 x mavericks as well as 4 x aim7 E-2s only drawback? no PD radar, but it’s also got the internal Vulcan too.
The HMS in my experience, which was like 2 years ago was totally useless man, it felt like it couldn’t lock a bus if it floated past it slowly.
Yeah the F4E has a great choice for GRB man , If it had PD radar it would be a 12.3 plane TBH
completely forgot the soviet one was there as a squadron vehicle as well
TBH It’s likely due to how little they are used , and how often folks get butchered in them that they kept the BR low, not that I agree with it mind you cause it’s still is BS.
I hadn’t noticed either of them being 10.0 , just assumed they were higher. suppose that’s where teh saying about assumptions come from.
Yeah that’s the one I was thinkin of, I genuinely though it was 11.0, but it doesn’t get much choice for mavs either, not like the F4E which can take 6 it can take one per pylon no?
I’ve also rememebered the Tornado IDS without guided A2G are 10.0 in GRB, so thats a supersonic with 2x 9Ls at 10.0. (god I want one for Britian)
Quite frankly. bar major upgrades such as Fox-3s, I dont think A2A really plays any meaningful part in an aircrafts BR in GRB.
It is 11.0 in ARB, so might just be getting it confused for that too
yeah I think they overlook it a lot TBH thinking about the sheer volume of vehicles at lower BR’s with great A2A capabilites.
Possibly man possibly.
too many BR’s to remember
Indo Hawk 209’s run 65Ds
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I mean out of the two in game did they or didn’t they get more advanced versions of mavericks.
though that is nice to know