Premium tiger with 15mm of extra frontal armor? Absolutely unacceptable, the essence of whats wrong with this game (it went to italy)
Premium tiger with 102mm extra frontal armor and an electric transmission, premium tiger 2 with a more powerful engine that was never actually fitted in a tiger 2? No issue tee hee
Japan bought a Tiger, thats the same as owning one, it as crewed by japanese officers, you just really hate the Japanese which is a trend nowadays to hate Japan for no reason.
the only trend going around at the moment is people being illogical and failing to correctly answer 2+2. having a receipt doesn’t mean you have the thing until it’s shipped to you specially when it never got to you in hindsight. i know it’s hard for you and others defending this bad decision of gaijin but facts are stacked against you and simply if japanese tree was added today there wouldn’t be a japanese tiger in it. compared to me you have barely spent more time in japanese vehicles yourself. have whatever flawed logic that helps you sleep at night but that doesn’t make you right. fake receipt tiger defenders deez dayz smh
I’ve seen the same dislike towards the Japanese tree crop up when the old German WW2 prototypes get brought up. The idea that thinner trees have different standards then fully populated trees seems totally foreign to some people. German Mains.
And as someone playing the French 8’s I feel obligated to bring up that the DF105 is still Germany only in response to the complaints about an Italian Tiger.
The Hungarian Tiger is fine because its just a tiger. The problem is they are just gonna spam German vehicles in Italy tree after adding the kf 41.
To settle the matter once and for all, we need a Discord leak of Secret Hungarian Documents from 1944.
If you are refering to the tiger 1 p, it has critical weakspots that you conveniently left out in your comment. Cheeks of the hull front and cupola both can be penned by the 75mm American gun. They are easy to take care of. I was just worried about the balance of the tank since it now is more tanky against the guns it faces, tho I don’t face it much so I haven’t had issue. I don’t know why everyone thinks 15mm of armour is nothing, it was already shown it can mean the difference between life or death. Armour is armour.
Japan owned the tank, and Germany even promised to return the tank, we have all the documents. “Compared to me” Brother you are not a WT Vet, you think braindead takes on the forums that 90% of people will shit you for are valid.
German mains are really annoying, like this Ruthless95 guy he and people like him are also complaining about the new Hungarian Tiger, they think the Tiger should be Germany only…when that logic just doesnt work, because then we can just remove Soviet tanks from all trees but USSR, imagine what happens to China then, and if we applied the same logic to Shermans and made them US only…these are the people ruining war Thunder, like this forum here complaining that some tracks make the Hungarian Tiger P2W…like bro just shoot the lower side armour like weve been doing for the last 10 years?
The Italian Tiger is there to help with the grind, and honestly its a great vehicle, its there for grinding and being fun, same as any other premium, only issue to certain people is its a Tiger, which the rest of the playerbase has no issue with though, its just a VERY SMALL vocal minority being annoying
Post like this and guys like Ruthless didn’t help with “German Main” stereotype.
I’m not vet, but in 2 years of my playtime, every time a tree other than GER gets their vehicle GER Mains start tantrum.
I never seen something like this with US or any of “minor” nations machines. Did anyone notice that current best USSR battleship is Italian? Noone cried that Grippen is in British tree or French DB-7. I haven’t seen French lamenting about Pz.Sp.Wg.P204(f) KwK.
Also every addition to Italian TT is accused of being OP/broken while most times IT is at best good, usualy just mid with gimmick that is fun to use, so this is just norm at the moment.
even if hungarian tiger wasnt added, the italian tiger couldve been added, because iirc there was once an italian crew using them, so complaining wouldnt help a lot lol
Which is redundant anyway in AB since all nations are mixed up (Ruthless is a pure AB player, for context). I don’t see the problem other than some odd nation-bias in terms of AB.
And in RB the more Tigers the better.
At least with the inferior Japan model you don’t HAVE to be stuck with wonky German-lead teams (talking all Germany bar a couple of other players, maybe just one). It is how you find out many players do not know how to use theirs, extra track armour will not save those particular players. This was pre-6.0 but it was how I found out just how effective Tigers can be in a full uptier, whereby I would usually pick the Tiger over the 76 Sherman.
And EVERYONE forgets that when GF started they had to make up THREE pure fantasy vehicles (as they are displayed in game, blah blah Panther II existed but not as we have it, we know…) to keep ONE nation relevant.
So to make the early part of WT GF work (as in when it was added), to appease Germany due to lack of post-WWII designs as they lost the war, completely made up vehicles (as in no other counterpart in existence) were included. Just a note that the early days of WT GF were NOT historical when they hit that later BR area (to compete with the only other nation at the time, USSR, before US GF added then UK).
Never been historical, still with remnants of trying to make nations a bit more competitive when played (Heavy Tank No.6 - but movement to MP only was just a cash grab. One of my favourite vehicles in game but locked behind rarity for newer players which sucks). Yes it is not a “legit” vehicle but Japan needed something, and it got “removed” from general aquisition YEARS ago. I doubt the low level players rushing Germany would not have wanted the inferior model themselves (was same BR as the E but with mortar launchers still attached, no smoke, no APCR). It was essentially “removed”, just like the Maus and its three fake counterparts (context of the German vehicles “removed” but replaced with supposedly less egregious vehicles on Gaijin’s terms).
For history buffs, WT NEVER had accurate battles, so expecting it from this game of over 10 years to suddenly have your particular theory on how history should play out is completely backwards. And some nations will have to understand that they stopped making tanks when others continued and the balance of performance by players allows this to work while ignoring the much harsher realities of vehicles facing “historical” foes (which WT is not fully marketed as… I guess… since i never played the game due to “marketing”; adverts are adverts and to be taken with a pinch of salt… unless you are some sort of drone!).
Italy needed a Heavy tank, Gaijin did the Gaijin thing and wacked it behind a paywall just like the Heavy No 6 (was originally, GE only).
And he complain about having to aim into small parts of tanks? Like arcade didn’t have included weakspot Finder? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Thank you, this info makes my day :D
Oh god an AB player…
More a case of in AB it is mixed so you face your “own” vehicles anyway, so why worry about a close axis nation having an option like this.
the fact that this argument about a single vehicle is still going on is sad, Italy has no heavies to speak of and the moment they get one someone has to complain, i just look at it as i now have a new vehicle to A. add to my collection and B. fuck around in arcade with it
I guess the Hungarians were smart enough, historically, to place the tracks in these spots…
Least delusional German main moment
