You know idc right ? I am not an air player, I do no claim so , I am a ground main. I don’t even use Heli/CAS in ground , so those stats are not matter
So how do you know how easy it is to kill a pantsir since you don’t fly a CAS plane? funny how you defend the obvious pantsir meta when you mostly p;ay russia lol
No Nato sided CAS plane has any good means to destroy a normal not (idiotic) pantsir-s1 player…
Agm’s travel speed sucks
you are in a 12km bubble of where you can only attack from ground lvl by peeking for few seconds
while russians have mach 2 missiles with good thermals and the best spaa in the game making the russian cas much more safer in the AO then any other nation… by the way show me how an adats intercepts other munitions or maybe it will be easier for you to show ITO and we will compare it with pantsir…
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you don’t play spaa since i can see your stats clearly “mam” on the first page nr 37 is a GEPARD nothing else is spaa unless you take the 2s38 into it xD
I find it funny how you try to insult me but don’t have the balls to do it properly.
you don’t play spaa and don’t play cas and you try to school us … grow some balls and a beard then you can talk with us.
I have 800+ kills in adats with 600 matches i speak from experience not from feelings like you
so take a breath becasue you sound like you are hypoxic…
enough comas for you ?
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Yeah and I also did touch the Pantsir. You have one job that to look at my piss poor stats and you still fail to see everything. With all that game and still unable to see how strong CAS are , if you see that I am wrong then prove it, not trying to statshame me and fail anyway
Lmao , xd even
you dont have the pantsir nor ADATS, not a single match
the only spaa you have is Type 81 and you dont even play it alot
like come on dude you dont play pantsir or adats
you dont play cas nor much spaa, whats the point arguing something you dont even know?
I do. I only have the Pantsir , I am grinding the US tech tree anyway. Yeah and I don’t play the thing much cause >Russian team
Sure oc I don’t know , then tell me. Where am I wrong ?If you can tell me where I am wrong then start yapping , if not don’t even try to hit me with that “Brub you don’t play SPAA much you don’t know what you doing”
I can see and your stats show how bad of an AA players you are so I find it weird that you try to school us on what or where is to be done to “prove” your point
We agree on one thing that pantsir is top notch but that is about it.
and btw you have what 40 matches in pantsir? like seriously dude play for a while research all youc an for it get a grip of it and you will see how wrong you were about enemy cas being able to kill you with only minor difficulties.
When did I try to school you ? I literally made my point and that is ? Bro having a reading problem or what ?
So CAS are fair and balance as long as everyone get a Pantsir then ? Top tier the only BR that exist, sure. I guess that all that needed to be said
Russian bias are obviously not real, the bias is just always the ones you’re fighting, that’s how it is in this type of game
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Based. Actually good take , damn
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There I can share my experience doing CAP in Gripen against those scumbags KH-38 slinger
-They can have altitude advantage while I can’t
-They can do vertical maneuver and more freedom of movement while I only force to stuck with Horizontal maneuver only against them
-And when you need to kill some KH-38 slinger you need to kill it very fast because sht that like six people lives at maximum too slow and they a dead
-which left it with only option that can effectively good against them which is “Air spawn camping them”
see how F up they are?
I can invite any expert that loving saying “Pantsir are fine” to do CAP against Russia and save their teammate I sure that 85-90 percent of those expert can’t even do it.
Well yes taking into account as a whole yes would be balanced for nations outside of russia to have a similar spaa capable of doing what pantsir does in combination with CAS
russians have 2010+ year equippment while usa in comparison has 1990’s stuff…
hellfires miss a lot while irl they don’t is one of multiple things I can write here with 100% confidence.
such as depleted uranium armor or the lack of it in some tanks.
DU rounds for us
r-77-1 modern russian missile (2015ish) where is the american amraam version C oh wait make it 2008 which would make it the D version…
what about meteor missile? which was introduced in 2016…
Like how much more obvious it has to be for you to not deny it?
all of it which i presented here comes to one thing CAS and how unbalanced it is in a favor of one nation vs other nations. and when it comes to SPAA give me a break…
pantsir 2008 produciton
best other spaa is the ITO with 1992 year of production…
I have just the discussion bro
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You will find your answer in here most likely.
I deny it cause it doesn’t exist. My lack of Pantsir game simply from myself dislike SPAA gameplay as a whole and itself doesn’t give enough reward and SL gain to justify the SP spawning them in.
My whole reason for not believing in Russian biased exist and Gaijin did not favour Russia simply because they don’t , more like they simply can’t come up with a good balancing and they make a lot of questionable decision , they are bad , I admit. I am not defending them here. I will say again I am all down for all nation to get new SPAA but my point is SPAA have a lot of problem on their own and without major change to CAS as well and other aspect of ground. The situation would more likely stay the same. I did not say that you guys are wrong but bringing my stats in is such a low move
F-15E, F-15I, Rafale, Mirage 2000D RMV, Su-30SM, Su-34, etc having altitude advantage while you can’t is just a matter of them being OP.
Also every single fighter user I know of has never died to Pantsir.
Claiming Pantsir is OP is your post claiming Su-34 suffers.
maybe come up with discussions like this instead of insult people who don’t disagree with you people probably don’t pull that low move like stats shaming
ever try that?
I did not insult you , until you pull the “Russian main”. You saw my stats , you see that top 10 played vehicles are premium , why not call me that , a wallet warrior type stuff ? Using “Russian main” against me just kinda cringe bro, sure prior to that I did say something mean and it wasn’t even that mean , just some light funny stuff but that because you unable to understand my point despite I already wrote it out clearly and then just pull the worst insult possible bro , please , I love you man but if you gonna say something mean put some effort . I will say again tho , I did not make fun of your family
Pantsir is the same OP as F-15E, F-15I
So your post is out here claiming CAS is balanced because Pantsir exists…
You heard it guys, new SPAA isn’t needed, apparently the 20+km CAS we have in-game can die to the 16km range SPAA via magic.
At least you are being fair, unlike some gaslighters here who only side with someone who supports their stance…
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