Has anyone felt the bias yet?

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Same, when I got really defensive and called you out. We were on the same side all this time.

My point about the Pantsir being good was how it can still effectively chase down hard maneuvering aircraft like the F-16s and F-15s. I do it all the time but I also see your point about how ordnance like the gbu-39 can practically blind a pantsir from the real threat of mavericks or LGBs. but if it takes as much to take out a pantsir while only needing 1 kh-38 or maverick (heck even a hellfire) for the adats then isn’t there a good amount of disparity and thus superior to it?

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I’d say that when talking about CAS they should be assumed to only ever target MBTs, and any munitions outside that task would be used to distract SPAA.

That’s what I think.

I also think that ADATS should be 11.0 - 11.3, and top CAS moved up to 13.0 with Pantsir moving up to 12.3.
New SPAA superior to Pantsir being introduced at BR 13.0 as they come out as well.

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The issue is the platform isn’t poor enough to deserve Kh38s. It’s hard to say what it should get as a replacement since it’s russia’s only ir agm. A thermal variant of the Kh29TD( I don’t think that exists) would be well. The Kh38 shouldn’t ever been added. The Kh59 would’ve been a much better option as it’s subsonic thus easily intercept-able.

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It can always use its guns.

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If another nation had Pantsirs, they’d be shooting down KH-38MTs too

And no, taking skill doesn’t make a vehicle bad.
That means it has a skill ceiling. That’s called game design.

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I think we can’t agree on that one.

They are fine on it’s own but what’s not fine is the trend where AAs don’t keep up with CAS.

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that must be a joke.

AGM65 or Equals shouldn’t have being added…

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You can use skill you can use what u need to justify with all do respect, just don’t piss on my back and call it rain

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Guns run out as well and you won’t be able to destroy all 16 unless you start shooting right away, which burns through even more ammo.
One Israeli Spike carrier can keep multiple Pantsirs busy and make them easy picking for other CAS, that is if 95% of teams weren’t playing Click Bait lol.

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just posted;

2.45.0.22 → 2.45.0.23

  • plane spawn points: IR ATGM multiplier: 1.66x → 1.8x

Current dev version: 2.45.0.23

Current WiP live version: 2.45.0.21

Current regular live version: 2.45.0.21

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You gotta explain to me how they are equals.

Lets say the Aim-9x was implemented and only US jets had access to them. By your logic all you can’t remove one IR missile without removing all of them because they are seen as “equals”.

Having the same guidance type (ignoring the fact that the kh38 also has IOG) doesn’t mean they are equal.

Read this to get a better picture on what I’m talking about: Guided weaponry data - Warthunder

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It’s 99% better than any other SPAA, controlling the skies and Su30sm controlling the ground.

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Obviously it can’t control anything as one Israeli helicopter can keep several Pantsirs hostage.

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maybe they arent putting rounds into your UFP but your LFP and your fuel tanks are eating them

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And there’s rarely a AH60, not everybody got one but almost everyone got a Pantsir.

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“Ground Realistic battles”
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The M247:

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All that needs to happen is gaijin removing scouting reduction in plane cost. Plus reducing SP gains from capping points. Also maybe even reducing SP gains from non critical damage. This would instantly fix the CAS “issue”.

Also as stated before, ground RB should be all mixed.

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except the doctrine is CAP supported by long range air defense and SEAD/DEAD out of those three we only have 1 in game, and the map size means CAP is limited to operating either very low altitude or inside range of enemy air defenses

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It’s not a vehicle’s problem if it’s nation is popular or not.
Israel has arguably the best helicopter in the game, people not using is on them to be fair.