Oh, I forgot to include my apology for anything I said that sounded aggressive.
That was not my intention and I apologize.
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WHAT???
Multipath should be 100m anyway! Like old days.
To have what ?
No one is stopping others to spawn in a plane dude, it’s not a RU-only feature.
This is about CAP not Attackers.
I don’t want half of my team dogfighting the half of enemy team 20km from the battlefield where ground units can’t have an influence.
No, I don’t want GRB to transition into 5v5 tank battles with others larping as they’re in ARB.
They don’t want it because it might ruin their “vision” of a combined arms game.
Yes, however what you are saying is applicable to both CAP and Attackers. What I am saying is that the arguments that are being made against CAP can also be made against Attackers, and for Cap for Attackers.
Like it practically already is with Su-30s/34s? The other current option is a CAP/Attacker limiter like they have in SQRB, which I am happy with, but I have a feeling someone may not like that.
Which I think we both agree is ridiculous.
Forgot to add to Realistic, which means they get to spawn into KA52,Pantsir,Su30sm,t80’s,t90’s which literally superior to any nation can offer.
Debatable, Spikes do little to no damage to heavy tanks, can be shot down by Pantsir, while Vikhr’s speed and range are super good and let’s not forget how the Kamovs tend to eat alot of shells and missiles.
Rafale is still fighting against Pantsir and AASMs are slow which are easy target for Pantsir to interccept.
Not poor shots at all, just shells don’t spall like they do in NATO tanks.
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At least Attackers wouldn’t cost pennies to spawn, further incentivizing people to hijack a mode.
With this both sides would be included and most wouldn’t even have an impact on a Ground battlefield.
Gaijin isn’t keen to place limiters on anything or make gameplay better in any ways, so I doubt something like that would be happening.
From our PoV it might be ridiculous, but they don’t want to stir the pot if it’s not absolutely needed to make people spend money again.
I’d love to see how will Pantsir deal with several salvos of 16 Spikes every 30 seconds or so.
Same, when I got really defensive and called you out. We were on the same side all this time.
My point about the Pantsir being good was how it can still effectively chase down hard maneuvering aircraft like the F-16s and F-15s. I do it all the time but I also see your point about how ordnance like the gbu-39 can practically blind a pantsir from the real threat of mavericks or LGBs. but if it takes as much to take out a pantsir while only needing 1 kh-38 or maverick (heck even a hellfire) for the adats then isn’t there a good amount of disparity and thus superior to it?
I’d say that when talking about CAS they should be assumed to only ever target MBTs, and any munitions outside that task would be used to distract SPAA.
That’s what I think.
I also think that ADATS should be 11.0 - 11.3, and top CAS moved up to 13.0 with Pantsir moving up to 12.3.
New SPAA superior to Pantsir being introduced at BR 13.0 as they come out as well.
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The issue is the platform isn’t poor enough to deserve Kh38s. It’s hard to say what it should get as a replacement since it’s russia’s only ir agm. A thermal variant of the Kh29TD( I don’t think that exists) would be well. The Kh38 shouldn’t ever been added. The Kh59 would’ve been a much better option as it’s subsonic thus easily intercept-able.
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It can always use its guns.
If another nation had Pantsirs, they’d be shooting down KH-38MTs too
And no, taking skill doesn’t make a vehicle bad.
That means it has a skill ceiling. That’s called game design.
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I think we can’t agree on that one.
They are fine on it’s own but what’s not fine is the trend where AAs don’t keep up with CAS.
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that must be a joke.
AGM65 or Equals shouldn’t have being added…
You can use skill you can use what u need to justify with all do respect, just don’t piss on my back and call it rain
Guns run out as well and you won’t be able to destroy all 16 unless you start shooting right away, which burns through even more ammo.
One Israeli Spike carrier can keep multiple Pantsirs busy and make them easy picking for other CAS, that is if 95% of teams weren’t playing Click Bait lol.
just posted;
2.45.0.22 → 2.45.0.23
- plane spawn points: IR ATGM multiplier: 1.66x → 1.8x
Current dev version: 2.45.0.23
Current WiP live version: 2.45.0.21
Current regular live version: 2.45.0.21
You gotta explain to me how they are equals.
Lets say the Aim-9x was implemented and only US jets had access to them. By your logic all you can’t remove one IR missile without removing all of them because they are seen as “equals”.
Having the same guidance type (ignoring the fact that the kh38 also has IOG) doesn’t mean they are equal.
Read this to get a better picture on what I’m talking about: Guided weaponry data - Warthunder
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It’s 99% better than any other SPAA, controlling the skies and Su30sm controlling the ground.
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Obviously it can’t control anything as one Israeli helicopter can keep several Pantsirs hostage.