Just as the usual suspects are for the Non Russian teams? Surprise surprise.
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Facts
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What is even that question ?
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Yea sure lets give them s500 and other countries wont get anything new
Russia is the last country that is suffering from cas
But yea lets say that all cas is EQUALLY abusive when u barely have any battles played in any cas other than abusive one (rafale). Not all cas is equal. One is completely fine in terms of fun-difficulty (smth like a10 imo) level other is straight up bs that doesnt need any skill to use (kh38 slingers. Hammer too but it gets easily countered by s1. Hell even ir spaa can shoot down hammer)
Pantsir S2 or the other one is what I expect for SPYDER equivalent.
I’ve literally played OP CAS for 2 years straight and quit cause I never died to SPAA while doing CAS runs.
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Can u say what cas it was?
Before Pantsir and before Pantsir’s late 2024 buff: Tornado IDS ASSTA, Mirage 2000D R1, 20005F, F-16C, F-14B, Harrier GR7, Mig-27K, Gripen… off the top of my head well into mid 2024.
Post buff I used the F-16C primarily as it was me trying to get the 20km bomb achievement with GPS guided bombs, and Su-34 at least once. I didn’t know the Pantsir was buffed until after I retired CAS from random battles though.
In custom battles I’ve used Rafale, Su-34, and F-15E to learn tactics people were talking about and see how OP they are, as determining OP with proof is easily done via cross analysis and custom battles.
Also learning Pantsir changes in custom battles as to keep ahead of knowledge so I can help people struggling with CAS if they need help.
Citing CAP as a necessity is admitting they’re OP and only proves the claim of them being OP correct.
After getting the 20km achievement I retired CAS over learning opportunity was drained, spawn point nerfs made spawning more tanks objectively better for the team, and BR nerfs made having CAS an objective negative.
Oh, and when I say if you’ve played one laser GBU platform you’ve played them all, that is just a purely correct statement. It’s a rather boring 15km launch playstyle that’s universal among all GBU carriers, and sadly only works on maneuverable platforms like F-16 now; and if you have F-16 you might as well use AGM-65Ds from directly above instead.
And unless you’re bringing glide bombs, the F-16C playstyle is identical to the F-15E, glide bombs is the real useful aid for F-15E though, especially with more than 1 CAS up on your team at a time.
You grab a lineup of USA, France, and USSR. The F-15E dazzles any SPAA period, then the 4 of you clean up even within 12km.
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Can u say how many times u used cas in an ACTUAL grb battle. Atleast 1 that u used the most
he gonna type another essay bro
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I know… I just want to know how many times he used glide bombs in an actual grb battle cuz they are very different to custom battles
Also 15km laser gbu is very… Sus. There are many reasons people dont use them at that long range
statshark it
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I just leave room for him to explain
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looking at his stat
all i can say
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hmm
Your post got flagged due the profanities present in it. Just edit them out.
Gentle reminder that you can PM Forum mods to clean up these issues instead of tagging CMs.
The physics are the same. And I used GPS bombs a lot to me, but never kept count. I only loosely monitored weapon type, not the amount of times cause I was more concerned with just playing than recording.
Also I used laser GBUs out to 22km when they didn’t have speed limits:
@MrBombastic8
Statshark starts in late 2024 around the month I retired CAS from my lineups.
Pantsir is not useless at all, while other nations AAs are totally useless against KH38MT.
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Not useless at shooting down decoy ordnance.
ARH AAs were needed yesterday.
Gameplay is very different. People are more chill they dont have to worry about losing something as in the normal battles therefore theyare much less engaged in the match
Srsly. Wanna play with me? Normal battles ofc
Pantsir is still better than any AA ingame, so the thought of it being useless is a dumb one.
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Not really.
That’s like you pick the best bow out of a dozen total and then you force it to engage in a sniping duel with an actual sniper rifle.
The best things can still be useless.
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