where did i say that’s the russian (whoever that is do you know him) fault? i just said thats how it is in game? Now should they one shot everything they lock on to every time? sure not, how crap would that gameplay be? 4 guaranteed hull down kills would be dumb af in this game. but they literally do absolutely nothing 90 % of the time, which is just awesome when at least 50% of the maps are cqc brawlfests and a lot of times when you commit you have to make sure you kill the thing youre targeting or you die yourself.
True the damage on flying stuff might just be to the bigger caliber and in relation bigget he equivalent on the 2s38, it’s still kinda baffling that gaijin went to the lengths of actually coding a completely new ammo type for the PUMA which barely does anything to the stuff it was designed for, aerial targets. I mean, why bother? If the 2s38 uses AHEAD irl but uses proxy he in game even after AHEAD was put in game, why not just slap proxy he on the puma and call it quits? Cause that would be reliable or what?
yeah try take an mbts main gun with the pumas overheating gun with skewed accuracy (cause im sure thats how it performs irl and it’s not one of the vehicles with the most bug reports) when hes wiggling it and not straight looking at you in disbelief without moving it. gl. you only need to score like 5-10 hits on the tip. 20 seconds from the side is probably an overestimation tbf. your gun is overheating way before that which is hilarious enough in itself.
but don’t worry i still manage a 1-1 kd in this sorry state of a tank, but it being absolutely fine in comparison is probably verified by basically every contentcreator that ive ever watched going on about nothing else but how bad it is and that theres absolutely 0 people talking about how busted the 2s38 is.
Thank you for admiting, that this light tank have to aim through weakspots to fight MBTs, as all other light tanks have to do and that it is not a reliable way fight MBTs from the front.
How is that not reliable? you hit its weakspot and you pen it. reliably. would you say a leo 2a7 cant kill a t80bvm from the front reliably because he has to shoot its lfp? if thats the case then no tank can kill anything in game reliably and im not sure what we’re all doing here? everything has to shoot for weakspots otherwise the damage and armor models would be pointless.
having to aim for weakspots has nothing to do with how reliable you can take it out. just with your aim?
The Puma on the other hand cant take out stuff reliably (at least russian ones) from the side. from the front you can only annoy them. gun to inaccurate to hit the gun or tracks (reliably) and 0 spots you can pen. Maybe i should just change the playstile to farming assists? drive to russian mbts sides, disable everything, leave their pityful husk to repair for 45 seconds and drive off? Or wait till they extinguished 2 engine fires?
You’ll not convince me its an absolute sadmobile. Fun, still, but sad.
Hate? I’m just spading it as first spawn atm, and since it basically has no lineup at 11.0 i play it at 12.0. I’m having decent fun with it. It’s effectiveness is just about 0. Which yeah I admit is infuriating considering what you can do with good light tanks. and then you get KH38 spammed.
Having read through the PUMA thread which is one of the biggest threads for vehicle changes in this forum i believe, well I’m too realistic im not the chosen one of all those people to make the snail care about it lol.
I got better stuff to do srsly
Hilarious how the first PUMA was once the most op vehicle in this game that was ever introduced. By a long shot. 8.3 or what it was first was absolutely wild with it. chack chack chack all over the map.
Mofo be writing a literally 10 page mald and cope about Puma and Russian vehicle , without adding any comma in between. Then yap about how he got “Better thing to do”. Strongest German main
I wouldnt say i hate it just because it works. Its just a virtual tank man? But its kinda funny what it can do at 10.3 while worse light tanks are at 12.0 or higher.
And those two sentences imo don’t contradict each other? I don’t have to be doom slayer every match to have fun. While I can be doom slayer making the fun you have in game dependent on whether or not you can kill 10 enemies in a not-so-good tank wouldnt be exactly smart. cuz 90% of times it doesnt work out. But maybe it could like deal damage at 90 degrees point blank to a russian mbts side before its gun overheats?
I can also use other examples for good light tanks from other nations to compare it too if that floats your boat.
But funny how you just assume that I’m a german main just because I brought up a bad german tank in game. Tells more about you than me tbh
Heres a comma for you if you like those that much: ,
Good one. But true. It is NOT even bad. Its something worse than bad.
So all people that have reasoning you don’t like or fail to understand are german mains? wow 80% of the internet must be german mains
Yeah sure ill address that and head over to gaijin hq to ask politely why they coded the gun to have absolute ass accuracy in game compared to irl and overheats while it is actually cooled? Thats my live dream to achieve that.
Maybe i could also ask about how the bug that blows of its tracks when the ammo of the rounds on the turret blow out the tracks when the unmanned turret gets hit every time and was stated by smin in november 2024 has a higher than standard priority for review is still in game half a year later?
Not sure but that sounds like it is bad and/or at least just neglected by the snail
Wow there buddy , calm down. I thought you have better thing to do , why are you sweating all over the keyboard trying to defend your reasoning. Did you know that it is ok to suck at IFV ? Afterall they are pretty hard , no need to sweat over this game over that fact ! It is ok. I guess you really have nothing better to do afterall
I’m at work man. I wouldnt put a second of my freetime into the fruitless task of trying to improve the game or make some random virtual tank more accurate. That should be the snails job. Theres also 1000s of people already doing that and they are way better at this than me.
Am i not allowed to bring something up for discussion on a forum? why are you taking offense in that? Or you just dont want to discuss things? then idk why your browsing the forum?
Also: I don’t like sucking. Do you?
May I ask where your information about the PUMA ifv being not even bad comes from? I’m not talking about the 3.3 br one. Since, yk, most peoples alias on this forum are their in game names and I’m seriously struggling to find any of the PUMA ifvs in your statcard? That knowledge about its performance in game just materialised out of thin air or do you have an alt account and can enlighten me what to do to actually make it work?
Calling me out for simply stating my opinion/experience with a very mid or bad tank, calling me mofo, or german main (which just isn’t true), a russian bias believer, the gaslighting is strong with this one.
for whatever reason crying about how much i write on the forum (not that i care or do have to care about that i can type here as much as i want. And i can also type without using any commas) All while having exactly 0 experience with the vehicle I’m talking about but actually calling it good. You ok?
You mean the same weakspot that Puma pens?
Obviously the CV9040 and 2S38 will pen there.
Puma is also a false equivalence fallacy. Puma is a heavily armored IFV with small caliber autocannon.
2S38 is an auto-light with significantly weaker armor.
2S38’s best comparison is the Begleitpanzer, and one is a higher BR due to APFSDS rounds.
True maybe the 11.0 PUMA just has a fked up playstyle due to its subpar main gun in which its strong points is you have to rush in like a lunatic and while the enemies somehow struggle to take you out they get killed by your allies. Funny af but not exactly rewarding. Also relies heavily on the fact that you need to have allies. Once your on your own you’re done for.
Also doesnt help you in spading it since you dont get rp for people that fail to kill you in 3 shots and get taken out while reloading. Maybe i just need to get used to dying, standing around being cannon fodder and repairing and otherwise be completely useless or at max a annoyance that is best ignored.
To be at least somewhat effective with it (not even at range but even close) taking at least 5 shots to disable a main gun or tracks from an inaccurate gun isnt really the way to go. before you took out anything that could help you your gun overheats. especially when the target is moving. at range that just gets worse. But wait- you have spikes. Or so you thought xD It’s just a vehicle of inconsistencies. The main gun, the spikes, does it (the enemy or the PUMA itself) die or not when hit? Inshallah, just rush in and try, something will happen
2s38s best comparison would be the swedish strv 9040s no? except for they dont have an unmanned turret and weaker darts but still workable. played all of those and compared to the PUMA - man those things do work
PUMA is actually one of the more annoying vehicle in its respective br, when it’s hull down using the muss sensor as a bait, it is nearly impossible to kill, you will set off the fireworks like during Chinese New year celebration but you will not kill it, if you don’t kill it you get marked, not even Soviet 125mm HE could pop the turret, one time it gets showered in 300-400 bullets by Tunguska’s 30mm and didn’t die, no other light tanks could take these amount of hits from autocannons and not die lol also all you had to do is land one clean shot on the barrel to turn it yellow or orange, then it gets destroyed after they fired the shot, more often than not they fire blanks or the accuracy is so bad that it misses you point blank.
barrels just break after shooting with them when they are at least orange and not yellow i thought? and to get them yellow you already need like 3 hits, which from the front means straight on the sniffer. as long as he can still shoot (no matter how many rounds it takes from the PUMAs gun to get the enemies barrel to that state) and youre not hull down how does that help? the PUMA is an easy oneshot with apfsds to the hull?
but yeah peeking just your turret is its strong point but a: on a lot of maps there just are no hull down spots in useful positions or maps are close range. b: for long range you have a whopping amount of 4 spikes and no ammo box. And c: if you get hit at the turret and not the MUSS sensor with he you will die. If you get your ammo on top of the tank blown out it magically destroys both your tracks from 200 rounds of 30 mil ammo on top of a heavily armored tank. so then your just sitting there waiting for them to finish you off. Its repair simulator 30k
The way to play against it is: just ignore it and keep moving or pop smoke if he launches spikes at you. he wont hut you and has to be very lucky to disable you especially at range, which is just a weird way to deal with an enemy tank? if you focus the PUMA (the 11.0 one at least) when he has allies around you done fkd up. thats probably the annoying part? Judging whether or not you can (99% of cases) and have to ignore it or not? :-D