Those can be bug reports, I’m simply pointing out that Brimstones not being FnF is not a bug and shouldn’t be claimed to be one.
I still view it as absolute bollocks that they refuse to fix it and properly implement the Brimstones as how they work. They can give whatever excuse they want, their actions prove their appeals as null. I understand Germany and Italy also get Brimstones, but the Brimstones were with Britain first (Tornado Gr. 4), therefore it is British.
Being just fine is not enough, why should British equipment be held to a different standard of “just okay”, meanwhile you have Americans and Russians running around with equipment that gets buffed every update and a half? British stuff like the HESH round have been largely unfixed, meanwhile the Fox gets needed because Americans, Germans, and Russians seem it unfathomable to not run a heavy tank at 7.7 and cry they got bullied by a scout car.
There is a clear injustice towards “minor nations” and it absolutely sickens me that we are told, “it would be game breaking” when something finally benefits us, meanwhile they will bend over backwards to give the Big Three anything and everything. Or did you forget about the F-18, and how America got three, and Finland did not get HMD, ground ordnance, or even a gun sight (because historical accuracy) or some bollocks like that. How about how every other F-16 is worse than the American ones? I could keep going with how American, Germans, and Russians have seemingly artificial buffs to their equipment (or the minor nations have artificial nerfs), but if you are fine with “good enough” then we have nothing to talk about.
I do appreciate you for your links, and I hope you have a good one. As well, I am not going to leave anything under the other thread.
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Brimstone 1 is the only Brimstone that doesn’t have SAL guidance and we don’t even have that version in game, we have Brimstone DMS.
I don’t know why you would make such a easily disproved statement but here;
There is only 1 version of Brimstone without SAL guidance and thats the first version.
You then have Brimstone DMS, DMSB+, 2, 3 and then the seeker was also used on SPEAR 3. All have independent SAL guidance as its own mode.
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…Ok?
The December update was totally focused on the nations that needed a new generation of fighters, such as Britain, Italy, Germany and France (apologies if i forgot some of the other additions). Every nation does have some issues in-game and lacks certain things, sometimes this can be fixed and sometimes it can’t. Please try to be open minded and avoid tunnel visioning… It’s not like every Russian or American vehicle is over the top.
Eh mate, 4 KD with a plane to me feels “good enough” (909K - 226D). The performance is nuts, literally outruns anything and has every tool to perform well. Is it harder compared to something like a Rafale or Su-34 that can fire FnF missiles? Sure, it might. Is that a problem? Not really.
Have a good one :)
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You’re right, I’m sorry
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I would also like to point out that Italy has never purchased Brimstone.
I would like to also point out their mission role is purely air superiority and to my understanding, have never even equiped live air to ground ordnance.
If you have any pictures of an F2000A equiped with a live bomb, or air to ground missile, please share :)
There is a good thread about Italian Eurofighters.
Yeah my initial post I forgot to add it. XD so it is edited.
UwU
Since Gunjob already provided pics I won’t bother, but I can add that It seems like we will be buying Brimstone 3s with our T4s ;)
(the brimstone part roughly translates to: As with the new Spanish Halcon II order of last week, the new Italian EFTs will be equipped with advanced avionics and new armaments (such as Brimstone 3 and Meteor), new sensors and more connectivity.
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Uhh, ever since the pantsir has been added the effectiveness of US CAS aircraft has significantly decreased. It was possible to launch mavericks >= 10km and maybe get a kill but now it’s hard to do so when there’s a competent pantsir player.
The only way to defeat pantsir is to do short range pop-up attacks or overwhelm it with multiple planes in the sky (which is not an exclusive benefit for the US)
Even before the F-16C or the pantsir was added, the Mig27 really gave the ADATS a hard time because at the time, it’s missile launcher was limited to 60ish degrees (to whatever cannon’s max elevation).
Now the gbu-39 strat is the only one to actively counteract the pantsir. But it doesn’t garentee a kill. Launching a maverick in conjunction greatly increases it however it can easily be countered with IRST.
The best tactic is to scatter gbu39s, hug the ground and do popup attacks perpendicular to the enemy. It does put you within IR missiles and gun range which is something to keep in mind
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It is likely GBU-39 and short range is the tactic now; however from 2022 - most of 2024, that wasn’t necessary cause Pantsir’s missiles were about as consistent as asphalt.
I still stay at high altitude when using fighters cause that’s still the safest place to be against SPAA.
What made the pantsir good is the ability to effectively identify and engage multiple agms. In addition it’s high radar detection range makes it where it’s quite hard to hide from the pantsir unless you’re directly above it.
If you were directly above the battlefield and a pantsir spawns in, then you’ll most likely be not detected, but if you spawn in while there’s a pantsir active, it’ll be very hard for you to go above the pantsir without them noticing.
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Being detected means nothing if they can’t resch you though. And before you spout the 18km range, do note that after 13km the missile is barely maneuverable and can only hit people literally being AFK.
Also it may come as a surprise to people but GRB maps are larger outside the AO
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As mentioned before, what made the pantsir good was it’s ability to identify and engage multiple agms. That was my main argument. I’ve not even brought up the pantsir’s missile range against other aircraft so stop putting words in my mouth.
Prior to the pantsir, CAS aircraft had the impunity to launch all their agms outside of spaa range. Aircrafts can fly in a straight line and can take their time identifying targets to launch with no worry about being shot at. Not only they have to worry about being targeted, they also have to keep in mind that their agms have a high probability of being intercepted. What good is a cas aircraft if it can’t do it’s main job?
The context of this response is if US had CAS dominance in top tier, my answer is no. Even before the pantsir, the dominance Russia’s cas dominance was more frequent as US SPAA had no proper way to counter it at the time.
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i have a question
do you think KH-38MT is “broken”?
I’m sorry but weren’t 1Zs dominating at one point? Fury F-4s (idk if anyone remember this but the 1st edition of bullpup was the closest thing we got for MITL)? Those were top tier. F-16C was literally the best CAS even after the introduction of the Kh-38MT with the Su-25SM3, only because of it’s utility as a multirole, Pantsir was the 1st step in making it hard for CAS in general and only because people still flew straight months after the introduction of the Pantsir
That’s not even counting the space bombers US gets at Mid to high tier (ergo A-6E and Sqd A-4)
There are no good arguments for it, only lying and gaslighting from the IvanBoos. Been going on for years.
Abrams are pretty dogwater themselves, to be frank. Them, the Chally’s, the Leclercs, Type 10s, Arietes - All need serious corrections but Gaijin’s too busy sitting on their asses and doing F all about it. Lazy slobs.
type 10 better than abrams tbh