Its a strange set up for sure. One hand the snail ruins whole BR brackets for £.
Straight up refuses to buff tornados, harriers, mig 29 that all have premiums so would equate to more pennies.
I was chasing a f18 at ground level the other night in a tornado… was only gaining 0.1 km every 15 seconds or something weak. Always thought the tornado was known as the ground level speed daemon?
Tornado is about the fastest thing at low level.
truth nuclear bomb holy shit
What are you on about
“flaps dont effect lift” 10/10 statement no notes
On the harrier they effect the airflow more then anything else.
They increase the maximum usable lift coefficient.
The wing loading remains the same
i wonder if airflow has any effect on a wings ability to generate lift
Obviously but you’ve missed the point.
As well as it underperforming even when the flaps are up by a whole 1G
do the flaps effect the lift or not?
They affect the maximum usable lift coefficient.
so they do effect lift thank you for the clarification
Alrighty lol.
Now answer this, does that affect the under-performing lift issues.
idk man you kinda havent made a convincing argument that it is under performing
Are you capable of reading?
Are you capable of interpreting the charts?
If you’re anything like feet pics then I assume not.
ive read through this convo and it REALLY looks like you are going through 2000 different docs to find the one chart that agrees with you ignoring everything else and then somehow twisting that to say that the harrier has the same sep as the eurofighter.
I’ve went through “2000” different documents and I found that all 2000 agree with what I’m saying, except 1. The one from a deleted section in a manual.
About the SEP it was sarcasm. Think about the implications.
If the harriers wing lift was correct it would be able to pull to 18 degrees AOA and sustain that.
Look at the E-M chart at 400 knots where it sustains 5.3G. Think about how much excess power it would need to sustain that when at 18-20 degrees AOA with all the drag that makes.
yeah, the esr/d requirements doc really puts thing into perspective, can’t believe it seems to be almost as bad as a tornado in the same conditions
Broski I was being sarcastic lol.
And at 84% throttle it will out rate a tornado in full afterburner… that’s decent
oh yeah that’s fair, forgot that the harrier is almost never at 110% throttle in docs.
I would assume at 110% throttle it would be much closer to something like the f18 than the tornado
The sustained G is increased by just over 1 at all speeds so it gets close to the F-18. That would be with just 100% throttle.