The Harrier 1 G capabilities where based on the AV-8A manual. The specific performance section of the manual was actually removed and completely redacted leaving in only placeholder charts without even specifying engine thrust setting used to get top speed. I have been informed that the performance section of the AV-8A/C manual is of no use by a real former AV-8A/B pilot.
There is however 2-3 other primary sources that contain max G capabilities and they all provide the exact same G values for AOA.
All that needs to be done is Gaijin gives the harrier 1 the lift coefficient seen in their own documents. (About 1.46 vs .98 in game)
What don’t you understand, they just don’t give a dam about realism. They just pretend they do for the advertising but they don’t.
They just do whatever pleases them and brings them money
Yeah I’ve started to run out of effort after they rejected a few of my newest reports.
Simply saying they don’t think it can sustain the G in the turn rate chart is just mental. Really burns you out. Why bother making reports and finding documents if gaijin wouldn’t even listen to them.
Data derived from: 1969-1971 AV-8A (Gr.1) Operating Data Manual / Harrier Gr.1 Release to Service Handling and Performance documents / NASA conceptual design study (TAV-8A at 16,800 lbs)
Game Data derived from: Statshark / in game tests at correct weights
As seen in the charts the harriers need to have 863 kg (1902.59lbs) artificially stripped off them in order to meet the baseline lift characteristics seen in all IRL supporting documents. This effectively means every Harrier 1 has 2 x 1000 lbs bombs strapped to them that can never be jettisoned.
The Sea Harrier due to its altered aerodynamic configuration actually achieves a slightly higher useable lift coefficient. Therefore despite having a higher OW its able to maintain a similar maximum G capability. It is however a 7G aircraft vs 8G of the Gr.3.
The Blue line is set for an AOA of 14 degrees in the Maximum G capabilities chart seen below the AOA limit was set at a temporary 15 degrees and was lowered down to the lateral oscillation level. This is defined as the Maximum G capabilities for lateral oscillations or 15 degrees AOA whatever is lower. I used 14 degrees AOA in the charts as that is the best average fit where 6G was achieved at 390 knots like in the IRL charts.
14-15 degrees AOA is however not the maximum usable AOA / G capabilities of the Harrier 1, its impossible to obtain accurate G reading beyond moderate buffet however due to instrument scatter. The Harrier 1 is able to use 20 degrees AOA up to .6 Mach as seen in various manuals and even in a Sea Harrier Cl/Cm lift chart. This is how 20 degrees AOA was used to get the maximum lift for a given speed.
Ultimately this is due to the coefficient of lift being much too low compared to IRL values, however this is not a reportable figure as it’s datamined. I have tried to report the G capabilities plots, to no avail.
