I’m gonna say this slow so you can get it, “The…laying…of…the…keel…was…never…completed.” You know nothing about construction, engineering, or marine engineering so stop. The analogy would be me throwing down a 2x4 and saying my house is done. My whole point is gaijin needs to have policy across the board, NOT exceptions for ships/boats. My original post is directed at gaijin not any of you.
The exception for naval was made because otherwise naval TT’s would be heavily skewed towards only a handful of nations that kept building major ships right on to the end of the war, and in general TT’s would be rather small.
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All we need now is this one … ;-) —> https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRoDbXMDKmKf7wi2OehVgdwBGUrizAUYPQUC2fCXpDkBw&s=10
That doesn’t matter in the slightest. They started work on the keel, so the ship was laid down.
They don’t have to apply the “paper/fiction” policy for all vehicles and the longer the game continues to be updated, the looser the requirements for vehicles to be added will become.
Starting the process of building a ship is a much larger commitment than building parts of a plane or a tank, so it makes sense to treat ships differently.
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So long as even one steel plate was laid on the drydock, it can be considered laid down.
It’s not exactly rocket science and I’m not sure why people keep trying to beat this dead horse.
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I don’t even know how a keel laying can be “partially completed” like @Oilydischarge is implying.
As soon as construction begins within the drydock, on the slipway or on the building blocks, the ship is laid down.
Either you start construction, or you don’t.
This suggestion for H-39 has a pic of the construction of the ship
Spoiler
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soyuz is unpennable to the H39s guns 4-5 miles or more away the japanese 16s have similar penetration
dont forget it had turrets too
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my question is why is USS South Dakota so .3 lower when its just as good ? it makes no sense ? literally cannot fanthom, why the guns on southdakota are similar it has 9 guns to H39s 8 guns with better pen drop off at range allowing it to pen better due to heavier shells while also having completely better armor ? i made a poll for it and most people seem to agree its odd HMS lions in same boat as H39
So is the scharnhorst to the SovetSky at under 6 miles, the chance of actually making a devastating hit drastically drop.
The SovetSky’s velocity is too high.
except naval engagements happen at range they always start at range the H39 has ZERO ranged armor unless you can force the engagement close fast enough that they cant hit you which is exetremely hard considering the bow is complete unarmored
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also scarnhorst has a different turtle back design H39 has same as bismarck with 30MM more armor within 5 miles can be penned by its own gun
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Interesting name
The Bismarck has been able to 1 tap my SovetSky, so I have faith that with 406mms will be plenty good enough.
The Germans didn’t give shups an real name until launch day. H-39 was Schlachtschiff H (Battleship H), and the other one that was laid down was Schlachtschiff J (Battleship J)
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The eight 40cm SK C/34 guns were finished, too. One gun remained as prototype and testbed. Three were converted to railway guns after cancellation of the battleship project. 4 guns were installed in France in the Atlantikwall: Battery “Lindemann” (one emplacement shown in the photo).
The proposed names for the battleship project were: Gotz von Berlichingen (Knight with a mechanical iron hand), Großdeutschland or Hindenburg. Großdeutschland is very unlikelely. The knight was quite famous, but at the end more an outlaw and marauder. So her name would have been likely Hindenburg. Would also fit the sceme the first two pairs: Scharnhorst and Gneisenau (Napoleonic period), Bismarck and Tirpitz (German Empire). The next in the queue would be indeed names like Hindenburg (WW1 + inter war period).
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ive been one tapped by many ships as bismarck such as 7.3 italian BBs does that mean there good enough to fight 8.3s ? the H39 is way more likely to get one tapped its armor is way worse than soyuz and iowas it fights constantly if south dakotas 8.3 so should the H39
japan has 410s and they struggle at range to pen the soyuz same with iowa mind you mutsu is 8.0 with same pen guns so guns along is not gonna get you far
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The name reminds me of jschlatt
And with how garbage H39’s armor is with being consistently one-tapped by the ship it’s supposed to be a straight upgrade of…
Yet another dead on arrival battleship because Gaijin wants to put magazines over shellrooms.
At least Lion survives detonations, not that Lion is good.
Germans decided on that layout
H-39 only has about 3000t of armour more than Bismarck
(Same weight as the 16inch guns)
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