H-39: The Ephemeral Giant

And with how garbage H39’s armor is with being consistently one-tapped by the ship it’s supposed to be a straight upgrade of…

Yet another dead on arrival battleship because Gaijin wants to put magazines over shellrooms.

At least Lion survives detonations, not that Lion is good.

Germans decided on that layout

H-39 only has about 3000t of armour more than Bismarck
(Same weight as the 16inch guns)

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Famous German engineering loosing war even in WT.

Well, Gajin was talked into shellroom detonations do nothing in WT. Thats what we’ve got. One category of ships explode their ammunition and nothing happenes. The other one gets destroyed with a single salvo. Thats called balance, obviously. Also Germany didn’t lose a single capital ship to sudden ammunition detonations during the war.

Propellent charges detonations is always way fatal than shells IRL.

Why should that be? Propellant charges were kept in brass cartdridge cases. Every single one. There is no real difference to shells. Its the same principle. Its not like the silk bags were just lying around in the open. In both cases the charges where enclosed by solid metal.

Those cases not give you immunity to fire and not indestructible. Hood death don’t lie.

It was the German way to store powder.

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It’s funny af to read the documents in the German archives

They decided that the cabling doesn’t need to be und der armoured deck and that it also doesn’t need splinter protection

Nope all navies stored the powder bags in metal containers by ww2

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Well, OTL they made the remarkably wise decision not to finish building it, so there’s that.

And for balance sake it should either be ignored or at least buffed to a point where it isn’t an immediate death sentence for most 7.3+ german ships.

Leave it as a weakness - obviously - but make one taps more difficult so these ships are playable at same tier and fires not immediately bake the magazine.

And it’s clearly not enough for an 8.7.

What else could you give them at 8.7?

The realities of BR compression/lobby formation mean that something will have to be up there even if it isn’t on par with other 8.7s, methinks.

Sometimes historical accuracy needs to go out the window for game health.

USS southdakota beats it in a 1v1 yet its some how lower i still dont understand who thought that was okay ?

It’s already here - shells didn’t do any damage underwater, have no hydraulic shock from explosions, and have nerfed shrapnel penetration, and look where it led us - making some ships way stronger than others.

You realize none of that would help the current game balance, right? Or make ships like H39 actually usable?

The only nation that even did research into utilizing diving shells - as far as I know - was the IJN and unsurprisingly they were the only nation to build against it.

…Which means nothing since no other nation utilized diving shells.

Do you realize that shell touching water in 1 pixel from the broadside don’t do any damage, while punching trough armor and having more that enough kinetic energy to do that.

Even if it was fixed, it’d be a nerf to every ship across the board.

Exactly, and all whine about SU will go away just cause his modules placed under waterline become vulnerable to those hits.