War Thunder’s map is small enough at a point thermal imaging devices is pretty much useless, except when someone uses the ESS + thermals trick, only having decent gun handling, which T-72AV (Turms-T) doesn’t have and a laser rangefinding device is more than enough, and the T-80UD has it plus decent armor.
Having around 23.3 hp/t is a good sign that the vehicle has a bad acceleration, but the top speed is no special, most late soviet designs are capped to 70 km/h forward.
But the OP is asking for something to go through the entirety, why would he bought a vehicle that’s not fully efficient to research all ranks? Either T-80UD or T-80U-E1.
Obviously every vehicle has pros and cons, but if you compare to any other option, T-80UD stands out for more confortable BR than the T-80U-E1, better armor than the T-72AV (Turms-T) and 2S38 just worse mobility in the acceleration subject than the 2S38, in general, except by targetting air vehicles, T-80UD easily outperforms the other vehicles,
The only problem with 10.3 premium vehicles is the fact that it constantly faces 11.3 vehicles e.g. Type 90 (B) ‘Fuji’.
Dumb logic. You don’t need a premium to research the whole tree. Just one good enough to get you a very good lineup. AM-1 will get you a good lineup around 8.3-8.7 that’s all you need. You can tech-tree vehicle from there on out.
Ur kidding right? It has terrible mobility for a light tank and one of the worst gun depressions in this game. For it’s gun, the APHE round is amazing but you can’t pen most MBT’s with it, have to flank but the prior mentioned bad mobility and depression makes it very difficult to flank. Imo it’s a flawed vehicle and should have never been added to the game, it’s both annoying to face and to play.
BMP-2M at the same BR is better in almost every way, it has ATGM so you can actually engage enemies from the front, has better hp/t so it’s faster, with it’s gun it fires faster and quieter, not giving away your position and it’s smaller in size too.
Best grinder is the T-55AM1 as I have heard but you can’t grind higher tiers with it, skip the 2S38 and TURMS, both are bad for their BR, if you don’t wanna play top tier, buy the T-80UD, if you’re ok with playing against Leopard 2A7’s and CAS spam with matches ending in 5 minutes, then T-80UE-1 is great too.
I don’t know you are joking or not but if you look at the forum when a lot of people complain about 2S38 that Gaijin increase the BR for that light tank.
good luck fighting against fast Leopards and Abrams with no armor, 7.1 reload and 4km reverse. That thing is just way worse T-80UD on every way except having thermals.
How’s a vehicle OP when it can’t front pen most MBT’s it faces and it takes 10-15 seconds to kill a singular target. You stand no chance against single fire vehicles unless they’re bad and mess up their shot. And for flanking I already told how bad it’s at with bad mobility, big size and horrible depression.
I’d rather be in 2S25M or BMP-2M in any day over the 2S38, it’s the only premium I regret buying.
It easily pens everything and one shots most of them.
It can spray pray constantly as it never has to reload or even wait for overheat.
IRST and Prox fuse rounds make it good even vs CAS
Insert any vehicle here. At that BR almost nothing can soak more than 1 hit. Though most soviet tanks you have to aim for Pixels where everyone else you just have to hit.
Though the crewless turret makes you very good in hulldown
Still far smaller and faster than most of its competition.
I’m not comparing it to the BMP-2M. I’m simply stating it isn’t a bad vehicle. You also reveal your mindset towards this game by not even mentioning the utility of the 2S38 against both air and helicopters. Stick to your MBTs, bro. Let those wanting to support the team do so.
I may not have ever played it, But I know for a fact that the Challenger 1 and 2 are one shot by it at literally any angle and compared to vehicles like the Desert Warrior, its massively better.
Oh wait, you never played any of them, you’ve only played US and USSR and so wouldnt know how 8/10 nations actually perform against it
Given the fact it is ALWAYS the most heavily requested vehicle to get a BR increase. Clearly its too good at the current BR
Zero premiums are OP.
The most user-friendly is the T-80UE1.
The hardest is T-55AM1.
The most divergent playstyle is the 2S38, avoid getting it if you’ve never played the playstyle before.
T-72AV is easier than 2S38 and T55AM1 to use and learn due to its thermal solution and optics.
Challengers are not to be compared, they’re far from being an armored tank, nor a popular one. it’s like saying x tank is good because it can one shot Arietes and Leclercs -_-
You almost always face Leopard 2A4’s since they’re on almost all tech trees and Abrams too, your only reliable ways of killing them is from the side or hope that they mess up their shot so you have enough time to fire multiple shots to take our their barrel, even then it still takes many more shots to finally get the kill. A single shot guns are better in almost every way to this slow autocannon, you can just one shot them in one second and move on, just need to aim carefully which you need it anyway with autocannons, but you have the guarantee that it will actually do damage and kill the tank or take out the barrel instead of just blinding both them and you with only making the barrel slightly yellow before you oblirate by fuel tank explosion.