Ground Vehicles **PROPOSED** RB battle rating changes

Ask Gaijin, not me. :)

Regardless, you underestimated an enemy vehicle and paid for it, that is normal.

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Quoting does not mean I agree with your point, fyi. :)

Also, multitudes of vehicles can punch above their BR range, what makes the German KV-1 different?

I didn’t

I knew it shouldn’t have penned there. But spaghetti code, American bias, or magic made me die.

There’s a consistent narrative of Soviet heavies needing to be nerfed in this game.
I get a Is-3 fighting 6.0s would be a bit nuts… but what about:
Tiger ost / west, KV-1C
T14, Cobra king, T34, T30, T29, T58,
Somua
Tigris

All are tanks that have never seen a br increase / nerf. They are all heavy tanks. All but one happen to be premium.
Coincidence?
Bar the T30 they are all consistently purchasable.

Are you forgetting the M103, the Maus, the T32, the Jagdtiger? :)

You probably wouldn’t agree with a wall that it’s a wall. Especially since you keep that smug smile after every message as if you’ve even begun to win the debate.

Which German KV-1?
The KV-1C is under br’d just as is the VK/30 and the Panther line.

Kv-1c has what the KV-1E needed to be potent. A great gun, add on the fact it gets the better turret.

Jagdtiger isn’t a heavy tank :))

Maus has gone up in br.

T32 which one? The original is meh, the T32E1 feels quite balanced.

M103 is slightly bad, but also decent.

Except the KV-1C has to deal with fighting more KV-1s since it is German, and the Panzer 4 H 75mm often struggles with angles. :)

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You are saying Soviet heavies are being discriminated upon when it is in fact not true. :D

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You sure about that one?
Kv-1E 4.0 > 4.3
Kv-1 Zis 4.3 > 4.7
Obj. 248 6.3 > 6.7 literally the day you could use it.
T-10A 7.3 > 7.7 a couple weeks after its release.
IS-7 8.0 > 8.3
Obj.279 8.3 > 9.0

What other nations have had its heavies so nerfed? Gimme your best example.

Good thing that 75mm can pen really well above and below its br :)

And yet of all of these vehicles, I have not seen anyone complain when using them, myself included.

You are simply trying to fix a problem that does not exist. :)

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I have seen plenty of people complain, and I’ve even received plenty of death threats playing warthunder.

So question. Are you a smug YouTuber, or something? Your “Renamed” name kinda hints towards it.

That is the norm, is it not? There are simply far too many players to consider which one is truly correct.

As amusing as it is to think that I am a content creator, my personality is far too placid for me to gain meaningful traction. :)

Well there’s no real reason for you to act so smug.

Additionally, your stats are slightly above average, with less than 10k matches under your belt. (Realistic ground)
Additionally most of your own stats agree with what I was getting at.

Nor am I even trying to say my opinions on the vehicles are correct.
That is why it’s a working list. Open to fact based statically proven opinions.

It is not smugness, I simply add :) to make myself appear less pointed.

My stats alone are a factor, but that does not nullify my point regarding vehicle archetypes and roles being far more detailed than their surface-level stats and performance suggest. :D

Much like how vehicles like the M18 and Breda 501 are unassuming at first but are very powerful under the right playstyle

I disagree. Tanks capabilities allow it to do great things

Look at the T58, everyone said it was crap. I kept saying it better be at least an 8.7, and it’s still going to be good. I was told no repeatedly by other forum users that it should stay at 8.3
It’s currently my highest KDr tank at a way over preforming 4.218

Most tanks that are balanced have a 2.0 kd for a good player. Over preforming tanks usually have about a 3.0.

Also, this: :) comes off as smug.
This: :D comes off better.

Or •-•
Or ^-^

You’re forgetting one factor: the fact that the T58 is a new vehicle. Which means many players are unfamiliar with countering it and artificially inflate its capabilities.

The Ka-Chi faced similar issues, but now it is quite balanced. :)

What is wrong with :)? Smiles are not welcome anymore? :')

That smile comes off a smug, I’m sure many would agree. (Some won’t because they despise I use factual arguments in debates to dismantle their debate, then they lurk like people whom disagree).

Also, the T58 isn’t that new anymore, people know how to kill it. But it has some magically USA bs.

I had 3 experienced lv100s shooting me in the side, while I was disabled. It was a T-55-am-1, obj.906 and a T-62. All shooting me. It took 8 rounds to kill me. I have 6 shells left. But they weren’t penning somehow, and they were like 3 feet from me.

The dude in the T-55am-1 was in chat and losing him mind. I watched his dart bounce off the side of the T-58’s hull and non pen. I was dying laughing and felt bad for the poor guys.

Why does it come off as smug? It is just a smile. :)

I would not consider a one-off event as concrete proof. There have been cases where Gaijin messed something up, like the LVT with the M24 turret having 500mm+ armor. But I do not believe that is the case here. :)

I am not considering one off events.

I do funnily remember playing the IS-2 and getting .50 cal’d because somehow the weld area of the Is-2 was 20mm RHA for 3-4 weeks before it was fixed.