there is no difference except in your brain
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Its not really the DF but that turret has little to no armor so very little spall, in my EBR 1954 i had an m18 shoot my turret and only kill my commander
In my Aubl 74 HVG I can get hit by a 20mm and it acts like a nuclear bomb went off in my tank.
Spall is inconsistent anyways. I shot a m103 a couple days ago in the lower hull, only killed the driver and loader, even though the ammo should’ve cooked off but it barely spalled.
Perhaps, but I have a lot harder of a time killing a DF105, than a marder or a tam, i wish it was in my head.
Thats why i said that turret, ive had a lot better luck with that turret design when it comes to getting shot than in most other vehicles.
Could be that it just has the T34 hull syndrome that the snail had to patch before it caused spall, idk id need to do specifc testing.
They break things often. I remember when the IS-2 1944, 321, etc all the uparmored ones, the upper hill was at one point able to be killed by a .50 cal
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Have a better explanation or please remove it.
“Uhm no” is not constructive
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It would be best to make sure feedback is constructive.
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What? The Type 59 APDS can’t even UFP a T-55 or M48, the round is so terrible it’s funny. And no it doesn’t get a LWS, and the slat armor does nothing except help with poorly aimed shots.
It’s actually incredibly funny that the ZTZ59D1 is the same BR with really good ERA (for the BR), and DM23 with the same reload.
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I also want to add I think nerfing the T34 and setting up a BR level is a terrible idea considering it still has its gutted AP shell, its spall is so hit and miss these days you might as well skip it entirely
I meant LRF, auto correct got me there.
Sounds like the ZTZ59D1 should go up in br then.
But it’s like a T-62 vs a T-55A, technically the T-55A will survive more and has similar firepower, but the T-62 is above it based on age. (Not saying this has anything to do with it, it’s just odd to me).
I don’t recall saying nerfing the T34, rather just bringing it up in BR so it can’t seal club 5.7s anymore. The 120mm cannon is good, but has a long load time.
It’s a single radar set, not a search and track set radar; yeah, it’s fast, but so is the Gepard. The hull armor is pretty much useless, unless they are targeting your hull, the 5-15mm of steel armor in the turret doesn’t protect anything, and makes it an easy kill, just as all the other.
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Realistically the Leo Marksman is a worse ZA 35 at a higher BR, besides moving it up just means they don’t have usable SPAA for their lineup. If that means Tridon with prox shells gets added then sure but again it cant move up since its only good at AT, its not a great radar spaa thsnks to the wide guns.
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SomuaSM is gonna be funny soon
Yep, I’d love to see the Tridon though
The itpsv and the veak spaa they have are good. Your own stats destroy your own argument. They don’t need buffs, they need more accurate brs for their performance. Veak is better balanced now, itpsv needs to go up in br.
It’s very mobile, with a good hull, good radar, and good cannons. It’s multi roles exceptionally, can and will often block shots to the hull.
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My stats? My Leo Marksman is a better TD than spaa yeah but the veak, lol ive played it 5 times since it lost HE-VT, i despise that thing with a passion. Ill take the ZSU-37-2 for the consistent fire rate and radar. The Veak is one of the worst spaa at 7.7 having to reload after 40 shots with abysmal velocity and fire rate makes it useless unless within .8km or unless the pilot is brain dead.
Veak 40 falls into the same boat as the Leo which is that it fails to be a decent spaa and must be played as a TD. Hm would you look at that follows a similar trend of other SPAA disguised as TD’s, ironically the best spaa on sweden from 2.7 until 10.3 is a TD with HEVT.
Again if you’ve actually played these vehicles pls do post your stats since you’re such an expert on them. Additionally bringing up my stats on the Veak says you literally had no idea about its current state considering it was only good when it had HE-VT there was a huge reason it stayed 8.7 and not 9.0 like the Sergeant York. Between my last 10 games between the Veak and the ZSU-37-2, the ZSU has allowed me to engage targets from 2.5-3km veak has failed to engage effectively past .9km the chassis and the poor mobility of the ZSU-37-2 are the only downsides, even when i need to engage tanks i find it to be on par with the Veak so between the two the Veak is the weaker vehicle. Of course if we check your stats youve never even touched the tree so how you apparently know how good the vehicle is must be magic since you dont actually have any idea what you’re talking about.
The m247 could probably go to 9.3 too.
My stats show that the Veak and itpsv are both well and capable.
In fact they are equal to the zsu-37-2
The zsu-23 is far worse in comparison.
But maybe I shouldn’t blinded rush in my itpsv and my kd will sky rocket.
Which ZSU-23 one with or without radar?