I believe you but I’m still not sure how enemies don’t just kill you while you’re reloading.
It’s also useful against the IS-4M, T-10A, Ho-Ri Production, and ( to a lesser extent) the IS-3 too.
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I was going to mention the HoRi, but I wasn’t too sure.
As for IS4M I actually didn’t know, I was under the impression both pen about the same amount of the driver port.
IS3 is also somewhat fair, tho imo the velo on 88 makes it easier to hit the seam.
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While you can kill the IS-4M through the drivers port with the long 88mm, it is quite difficult to penetrate when angled:
Overpressure helps reliably one-shot them as well.
I’d still take the 7.5s long 88mm in most cases though, like you said.
It’s got a decent reverse.
You can also gunner optic / hit the roof with the 88mm as well as the 105mm
11.6 km/h is decent, yes, but far from impressive.
The T29, IS-3, and IS-6 have better reverse speeds, although the IS-4M only has 10.5km/h (but it has much better armour to compensate).
You won’t really be getting away from many conflicts within 15.0s unless you are far away enough or haven’t used your two pops of smoke grenades.
It’s not as reliable, but yes.
Also nearly 500 pen is goated
500mm flat pen, yes.
It’s good until you start facing angled armour. At that point, it’s penetration is almost equivalent to L25A1, which is still pretty good for 7.7, but the reload makes it somewhat unimpressive.
It’s also a fully stabilized 120mm
T34 isn’t particularly great. 6.7 is fine for it and it should never go up to 7.0.
If you’re looking to score a whole bunch of assists, this is the tank to use.
You’re facing lots of German heavies, most of which you can’t reliably one-shot frontally. You’ve then got to suffer that 16 second reload during which time your ‘Kill Assist’ message will likely pop up.
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You can also give it the missing dual driver controls, though the co-driver will usually be dying to mg port shots anyways. All the late/post war US heavies had this features.
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It means you’ll almost always will get the first shot, but you’re not going to be able to do much against the second guy with said reload 😅
Not even mentioning the possibility of shell shatter or not one-shotting the first guy.
I legitimately never had a single APDS shatter in that tank.
And, depends on positioning and the like.
Okay thank you for telling me that. But the Ariete should go down to 10.0 with it’s dm 33 being removed. and DM 23/120 should have +10mm more of pen because then you can cheese the Abrams cheaks.
Guess I just aim good or was lucky?
Despite the fact I play on controller
you’re lucky. or you only remember the times you pen and conveniently forget when you shatter for no reason. I, in the conqueror, have bounced on the part you’re supposed to shoot of an unangled maus turret face. A tank with a 15 second reload and no usable HE round does not deserve 8.0.
I’m pretty sure I’ve only fire 80 rounds in that tank.
I have 66 kills.
So that means the margin of error is 14 rounds.
Which either could be:
- poor shot placement needing a secondary shot
- I missed
- a shell shattered
I don’t ever recall a shell shattering, and more so, i remember saying how good the gun / shell was to my buddies.
Also doesn’t it get HESH?
Just looked it up it gets a much better HE round! HESH!!! Wdym it doesn’t get a “usable” HE round??
HESH is quite literally a straight downgrade from standard HE in its current state. The ONLY reason HESH is good on the t58 is because it has a 2.5 second reload and it kills everything in one shot by hitting the tracks
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