It’s meaning less if it’s 3-4 kph difference, when it’s more then 5kph that does make a difference. I Asked this question bc I want to understand why the tank with such stats at 10.7 when the maps are usually huge and the low penning round, with excellent ballistics is at 10.7 not 10.3. Could you please tell me what makes it good?
you know what makes up for ALL of that? it’s fucking mobility. It’s armor profile is just better straight up because volumetric on KV-1s is like the game telling you to hang yourself.
Allow me to ask another question: Why the ACTUAL FUCK is the T14 4.7 when the VII, which is worse in every way that matters, 5.0
Not really. Its mobility isn’t even that impressive.
Other than reverse speed, it’s much worse than the Excelsior’s:
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maybe against ~100mm rounds, but ~145mm rounds don’t really struggle that much:
I’ll answer your question with another:
Why shouldn’t the T14 be 5.0 too?
And much better turret armour is a metric that shouldn’t be understated.
See here’s the thing, I think it should be.
On a semi-related note, I don’t think the Churchill VII deserves to be 5.0 based exclusively on how it performs in ontiers, however I do think it, like the uparmored KV-1s, is a rather egregious thing to make 3.7 tanks shoot at when it’s really just Germany that has the firepower to deal with it reliably that low. It’s like a Tiger 1 but without the cupola that lets american 75s kill it (Yes the VII has a cupola but it’s 115mm thick all around).
So there’s no issues then.
Well, it definitely was overperforming at 4.7 – that’s for sure.
You should’ve seen when it was 4.0 😅
4.7 seems reasonable to me since that’s on the verge of facing ~150mm+ rounds at 4.7+, though I’m not sure if it’s on par with the Swedish KV-1 m1942.
Multiple people have told you why already, but you don’t want to listen.
- The Leopard 2A4 is the shared most mobile MBT at 10.7 together with the M1.
- It’s got the best gun handling characteristics of any 10.7 MBT after the M1.
- It’s got good enough penetration to deal with any opponent.
- It’s got a mediocre reload, but that’s just the nature of vehicle balance, you have good aspects and lesser aspects.
- Armour is quite weak, but you’re not meant to be taking hits anyways, even if you’re in a T-80UD. The Challenger Mk.3 has terrible armour too and that thing doesn’;t get anywhere near the Leopard 2A4’s mobility, gun handling characteristics and it’s reload is significantly worse after the first 4 rounds.
There’s zero reason to place the 2A4 at 10.3, especially since that’s where the Challenger Mk.2 sits which is worse in nearly every regard, or the T-72AV TURMS-T which is massively inferior, or the T-64B which is also significantly worse.
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I don’t think it’s particularly fair to use immediate post update stats as justification for “overperforming” honestly. Like of course the newly buffed heavy tank would get an influx of new players. I think the BR changes should have waited a few months for the post-update stats to normalize before just using immediate post update stats, at least for the churchill. The Valentine 100% deserved to move up after getting that buff
I mean the jumbo and the tiger 2 are in the same boat which is a better comparison since both would be a full br apart from each other (although the proposed br change is still terrible i feel)
Removed:
T29 7.0 > 7.3 (A go to, to bully tanks, great from 6.0 - 7.7, most 6.0-6.3 tanks hardly can kill these T34, T30 included, good reload and great penetration with APHE, it also has 3x .50cal HMGs, two of which are coax).
After playing it recently it seems the hull armor may have been nerfed, and weakened.
The reload was a bit better of a balancing point in my opinion when they nerfed that, but the hull armor change seems odd. Maybe I missed something?
But it’s performance is still good, just not good enough to be 7.3 anymore.
sre you gonna remove this two then?
I mean, maybe. Though I can tell you that the performance at 4.7 was similar to that of the T14 in the right hands – at least based on my friend’s stats.
I mean, I can agree with this.
Yes.
No. The T29 7.0 is the others are 6.7
He’s saying that if you aren’t going to remove the T34 6.7 → 7.0 and T30 6.7 → 7.0, then they would be the same BR as the T29.
They’re all effectively the same tank. And yes I knew what he meant.
They just have different guns
T29 is better than the T34 and T30 though.
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They’re all pretty good.
One just reload a bit quicker
Nor do the T34/30 deserve to be 6.7
ok gamers the plane event started which means it’s time to spam queue bombers so you won’t see me malding about KV-1s for a bit, hopefully
They’re all pretty good, but the T29 is much better because it can actually one-shot things on a regular basis, and still has ~250mm of penetration and a 15s reload.
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But they all pretty reliably 1 shot things. The T34 has less chance, but they all share everything apart from the gun and reload.