Where are you getting 6.4 reload for the leopard 2A4? 🤣 This might come as a shocker to you, but Strv 121, Leopard 2A4NL, Leopard 2HU, Leopard 2 FIN, Leopard 2A4 are L2A4. Ariete has DM33 so it makes it best tech tree Dart at 10.7 (not including light tanks). And I was using tech tree vehicles not premiums or event vehicles. And if you look at the stat cards you’ll see that It’s slower then most other MBT’s forward and faster then some in reverse. But I guess it’s non supportive of your argument to actually use the in game data ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I didn’t unlock the L2A4 yet, but I don’t really get how a tank that isn’t faster then couple tanks and has a top reload of 6.0 sec. when others have better penning rounds with the same reload or faster. Can’t look anywhere behind it self or reverse faster then other MBTs. While having 2nd worst penning round at 10.7. And in addition to that has bad armor. Though it does get a good turret traverse and hp/t can be the best MBT. Or does it suddenly flip after 9.3/7 and these 2 factors make a “good” MBT.
Then why type paragraphs upon paragraphs of nonsense?
Bc I look at the stats.
It’s called an expert crew reload.
You are really not helping yourself get rid of the skill issue German main allegations lmao.
Just keep digging a deeper hole.
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M-51s are pretty contentious at their current BRs. There is a way they can be buffed so that they can get moved up.
The muzzle velocity of the HEAT-FS is way lower than it should be by 115~120 m/s. No real penetration boost from that since its a chemical round, but it does make the primary round way more convenient to aim.
They also had domestically produced HESH that become a standard service round.
And a M56’s top speed is less than a Panther A, do you seriously believe that makes the M56 less mobile?
Please tell me you’re not that ignorant regarding the game’s mechanics.
So did I? Quote me a single tank that I listed which isn’t at 10.7.
War Thunder? Where else?
But seriously though, clearly you have no knowledge about anything in the game, but then I don’t understand why you’d even argue any of these points with people?
I won’t start to debate a rocket scientist on how to do their job when I haven’t got a clue about anything related to that field of work, yet here you are and you:
A) Seemingly don’t even know the Battle Ratings of the vehicles involved.
B) Don’t know how to find/read reload rates.
C) Don’t understand how mobility characteristics work.
Yet you’re debating this stuff anyways. It’s okay to admit you’re not knowledgeable on a subject and learn more about it before commenting.
I never claimed otherwise?
Serious question and not meant as an insult: Are you a very young person? Perhaps 13 years old or so? Because the alternative is that you’re trolling/rage baiting, and I like to give you the benefit of the doubt.
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Yes because Gaijin think is worst that HE ofc no Rus tank use it
And got butt hurt so much in IRL from HESH that can’t work in the game
The only HESH that work atm is from T58 but with so many cry babys in Forum and Gaijin patting them in the back with 0 consideration for paying players they will nerf it in some time.
For reasons
Balancing
History
Realism
It’s just a game
basicly whatever go down in they heads
Pray so they don’t put them as standard round
HESH is kinda glazed. Baring very large caliber HESH, it’s rather easy to counter with spaced armor or other early-mid CW era armor advancements.
But against basic armor, it’s damage in-game is very gimped. The large armor scab created by HESH is absent, and the remaining shrapnel should be more effective against modules.
That being said, the game incorrectly assumes penetration remains the same at all angles, which is to the round’s benefit.
the same place you get a 4 second reload for anything with the 6 pounder: crew leveling
the t58 is obscenely overpowered and its hesh is ridiculous. it’s not remotely ok to have a tank with a 2.5 second reload that also has a round that kills literally everything in the game in one shot by shooting the tracks
This glass doesn’t really hold water anymore does it?
I would like to reiterate that literally every single uparmored kv1 is undertiered
I mean gaijin did try one at 5.0 and it pulled a .3 KD on average
and? explain how that justifies forcing 3.7 tanks to deal with them
I mean 5.x is kinda hard for the KVs with the 76
Not to mention it basically can’t fight back against quite a few tanks in uptiers which it almost always had.
I mean 94mm pen isn’t great
Also I might as well ask which 3.7s have a hard time against the KV-1s?
Chi Nu isn’t terrible, not panzer good but definitely not bad
Also we gotta ask which KVs you’re referring too cause there’s a few
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I genuinely do not care about KV players performing well, explain to me why the KV getting powercrapt at 5.0 justifies forcing 3.7 tanks to shoot at them. Explain to me why it’s remotely ok to force 3.7 britain, who is otherwise very solid, to shoot shit that the weakspots don’t work on if there’s a 1 degree angle (slight exaggeration). Explain how that’s fair to anyone except the poor KV-1 players
have you ever had the misfortune of shooting a kv-1 that isn’t the l-11 or the S with a 6 pounder?
I mean for one it’s a game and 2 it was also a premium, nobody wanted to play it, not the players or the YouTubers.
5.x basically is the cap, past 4.7 the KVs at that BR don’t do well, thing get far better guns and armor. They do well in ontiers and downtiers.
The 4.3 KV-1s do well in ontiers and very well in downtiers as they have more armor than their 4.7 counterparts.
Yeah, I’ve also had to fight them with the Soviet 45mm with 70mm pen APHE, it’s not great