You’re arguing with someone who does not care about fact. They are doing this for one of 2 things,
They just want to get on the internet and argue with people.(maybe they are hoping to be aggravating and make players mad?)
They truly believe their own opinions are superior to everyone else and that nomatter the reality, it must bend to their wills and beliefs. Ergo, “my opinion is the only one that matters, and if you disagree you are the one that is wrong”
Ah yes community polls, the ever so reliable way to measure game balance.
Especially when a large part of the community is so unbelievably bad at this game, I’m impressed they actually figured out how they started their PC without help to begin with.
XM800T should be 7.3 same as the Weasel
Weasel has the same armor, is smaller, uses the same gun and ammo, but also has LRF and thermals. XM800T is huge, does not have thermals or LRF. and for some reason is 1.3 br higher??? WTF? i assume its just cuz its amaerican and the devs obviously hate america
Stryker 30 should be 8.7 honestly.
and the 30mm EFV should be 8.3 or 8.0 cuz its trash.
Ah1Gs should be 7.3 not 8.0
Uh1B should be 8.0 not 8.7 same as mi4 and other early ATGM helis
UH1C should be 8.3 not 9.0 again same as other bad early atgm helis.
Ah1F should be 9.3 not 9.7 and get its missing flares. it should not be the same BR as hinds that get everything AAMs, Cms, sight tracking.
AH6 should be 9.7 not 10.3 for the same reason, that thing has no CMs and is pure suffering to play… and 2 junk fires does not make it playable vs all the under BRed russian God AA. not to mention 1 heat seeker and ur toast. literally nothing you can do.
It used to be around 7.7. It was moved up in BR for very good reasons lol.
Also that last sentence is the funniest US main cope out there.
I mean the Type 87 P is 7.7 and its not that fun to play compared to the XM800T
Right, cus only great players like you knows the truth ofc.
the total average K/D of the WT playerbase is somewhere around 0.7, which is laughably bad.
I’m not that good of a player, but the overall balance opinions of someone who can’t even manage 0.9-1.0 should definitely be taken with a grain of salt.
The XM800T is stabilized and significantly faster. An LRF is useless on the Wiesel, and the thermals are niche as well.
Still overtiered though. It should be 8.3.
It was 8.3, but seeing how it got moved up again I doubt it was statistically unbalanced there.
You mean the Wiesel 1A4?
XM has dual control, amphibious, better optics, 3 crew and Scout UAV
Wiesel has LRF but is also slower with only 2 crew
IMO the 4 step difference in BR is justified
The stab on the Conqueror has been bug reported. With no stab it should be fine at 7.7
try actually using it at the constant 9.7 br. cuz its dog ass
literally everyone can see you on thermals. you just die.
you cant pen anyway. its awful
and no ammount of gaslighting or Muh feelz about how gud it wuz in tha ol dayz, will change that.
its OVER BRed plain and simple. disgustingly so.
Stop trying to nerf my US heavies!!!
In all seriousness, though, decompression (which I think you are going for) is fine as long as you decompress everything and not just what you feel like should be.
I never said it was good.
But the vehicle you compared it to is worse in many ways - so there’s no justifying putting it at same BR as the Wiesel. It’s almost like you think UAV and STAB don’t have any impact …
Here’s a few things from my google docs of balance change proposals. I’ll probably post these on my own in the next official balance suggestion thread, but I figure I can at least gauge public sentiment with my proposed changes here.
Pz.III F
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Arcade Battle BR: 1.3 → 1.7
Realistic Battle BR: 1.3 → 1.7
Reload Speed: 4.0 s → 3.7 s
Rationale:
The Pz.III F is a bit too good across the board for its current BR. The APC round has great pen and decent damage, the speed is well above average with sufficient p/w to reach it, the 70 mm effective mantlet can stop many lower power guns, and the hull armor holds up well enough against autocannons when angling correctly.
It’s a huge step up in performance for a 1.3 vehicle. It makes more sense for it to be closer in BR to the Pz.III J, as the only thing that really changes between the two is the front hull armor increasing.
While the Ausf.F doesn’t have the convenient turret ready rack of the later Pz.III variants, it still uses shorter rounds than those of the L/60-armed variants, so I believe it would be fair to buff the reload to a comparable level as compensation for a BR increase. For consistency’s sake, the Pz.III J’s reload should probably also be buffed to a comparable level, if not to 3.5 s.
Type 2 Ka-Mi
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Rationale:
The Ka-Mi arbitrarily gets much worse reload than most other 37 mm armed vehicles despite having a semi-automatic breech and two-man turret (+2 on-board engineers that would be able to pass ammunition to the turret crew, but aren’t modeled atm). The gun is extremely close in performance to the Swedish 37 mm, so a comparable reload to Swedish tanks is reasonable.
Type 2 Ho-I
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Rationale:
Other vehicles with low velocity howitzers like the T-28 (1938), M8 HMC, and early Panzer IV’s have aced reload speeds of 3.3-4 seconds, but the Ho-I’s is longer than even many higher velocity 75 mm guns. This should be the opposite. The Ho-I’s rounds are shorter and lighter than the German short 75 mm’s rounds, and are more accessible than those of the Panzer IV’s due to the convenient bustle ammunition rack. Additionally, the Ho-I has greater need for faster reload than the Pz. IVs due to the much worse HEAT shell muzzle velocity, meaning misses at range are more frequent, and with the current reload rate, more punishing.
lol i knew that so many times that i wrote the Conquer i will confuse it with conquest one time
The Panhard is absolut garbage in the mobility department, a slight slope and it wont get up. Getting up to speed is also slow.
The 234/2 is fine at 3.7. It just needs to be bumpt up to Rank III, no BR change required.
Generally you start decompressing over preforming vehicles first.
Tiger II, and T26E5 are in need of an uptier.