B1 has like 9 crew though right?
Nope. The tech tree has 4 crew and the premium has 5. I thought you confused it with the 2C but that one has 12 men inside.
dont you think that italy shoud get a buff for the ariete?
Yes, it a working list, I plan to add it
War armor should be definitely buffed against KE at least. Also it would be nice if they finally put this report into work:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/MA8ugNxKkXQm
I have to admit, the more I play with those two tanks, the more I see that the B1bis is utter garbage, possibly worse than many BR 1.7s in almost every aspect, mainly due to the disastrous damage and penetration modeling of the French 47mm gun (in fact, the 37mm also shares this shameful damage and penetration modeling). As I said before, the Char 2C survives thanks to the overpower of its APHE guns and its unrealistic penetration; otherwise, it’s another extremely mediocre tank (a single 47mm APHE gun killed five of my crew members with one shot to the turret).
Honestly, it’s unbelievable that you can go in with the B1bis and literally not be able to kill Br 1.7 tanks unless the game allows it in certain matches. In fact, the tank is so bad that it’s the only one I’ve seen where you can kill nine in one match, and then in the next four matches you die continuously, only managing to kill one tank, and only after shooting it twelve times before you can finally kill it.
I know the devs are a disaster when it comes to modeling damage and penetration, but with the initial French tanks they’ve gone too far, leaving them like a huge wall for players who start playing with French tanks.
that is just aphe overperforming
Extremely good armor for 6.7? Keep in mind 6.7 is same br as Jagtiger and prototypes cheeks can be easly penned by 4.7 stuff.
Yeah no its only advantage is its horsepowers (which is not very good for huge superheavy target turretless SPG). Can take about as much damage as jagdpanther or ferdinand (br lower tanks) from front but anything can pen sides or rear its not comparable to maus in any way which has better level of defence from all sides and can angle on contrary Ho-ri can do barely anything to Maus - pretty much only at point blank sides. Cheeks of Ho-ri can be again penned by most stuff at its current 7.3 br and pretty much everything will go through anywere in full uptier with all the APDS rounds at 8.3 given it has 6.7 level armour.
- Japanese stuff doesnt do good because its good. But because the players are good.
I beg to strongly differ, the Ho-Ris are under br’d.
Me and a buddy used the excellent gun depression to hide behind a hill, I took over 60 rounds in one match and lived. Many of which were even HEAT rounds, and HE rounds trying to over pressure.
I almost had a nuke just from being shot so many times, while my buddy did get a nuke from shooting people while I was bait.
2 nukes with little effort. No deaths. I think we had like 15 kills total, 5 assists. Granted I only had like 3 of those kills
The vehicle on its own is a go to for a great tank.
You can do pretty much the same with Jagtiger at almost br lower with way more armour and better gun. -3° doesnt make much difference to hull down.
+Ho-ri can be killed by Arty in hull down ever since its top opening damage model was changed. If its even slightly open and you get shot by arty near it its gonna overpressure even the driver.
F-15JM begs to differ. Japans been getting special treatment for top tier air for years now
Lies.
-10 gun depression, learn how to play the Vehicle. I myself have a 2.778 KDr, and I think I’m doing bad in it, which mean it’s likely even better.
Typically, anything with over a 2.5 KDr is rather good and likely in need of a br change.
Lit just said there is only -3°difference not that is has -3° depression
- Jagtiger -7
- ho-ri -10
No. That way all american and german stuff would be 1 br below their vehicle performance and everything from minor nations would be 1 br above their vehicle performance. - oh wait nvm it already is that way, but that doesnt mean its good.
Never played top tier bro. I dont have the need to ruin my mental health with no skill ADHD quided rocket players. I stick with tradition - end of ww2 is my toptier.
Just because you don’t play something doesn’t mean it doesnt exists.
Added:
Sidam 25 Mistral 9.7 → 9.3
Being one of the worst spaa in the game, having mistrals is nice, but they are lack luster, combined with your extremely poor survivability, mobility, and cannons only firing 60 APDS, then 400 HE, your often unable to defend yourself.
VRCC/ Centauro I 105 R 9.7 → 9.3
This vehicle has for a long time been a relatively bad vehicle, good in mobility, but not much else. Its survivability is rather poor as it’s a light tank, but its gun handling isn’t much better. Its 6.7 sec load is a bit bad for it as well. Then with the addition of turret baskets, one hit pretty much anywhere to the vehicle typically results in the inability to fire back as usually your transmission is also destroyed.
So, to prove the rate in which the brs that the KV-220 faces, and how well it does, I took a tally. I kept it a bit simple. Needing a 1.0 or higher KDr that match, or lower.
The results:
45% of matches are full uptiers to 7.0
45% of matches are 6.7
No 6.3 matches existed
And the last 10% were 6.0
Given you have next to no chance to kill most if not all 6.7s and 7.0s how is it fair that the Kv-220 stays at 6.0?
How many matches that was?

It’s even a better KD than the notoriously balanced T-58. Surely this is purely a case of good player playing it and not indicative of anything else right?
BMPT-90 and BMPT-72
12.0 or 12.3.
literally unkillable at 10.7 unless several people overwhelm it. tiny weakspots other than the lower plate. modules are too small to reliably hit and it wont die from ammo detonations. blatantly OP for 10.3, like how tf is it the same BR as a 2s38 or a CV90 40mm or ajax


