Ground Vehicles **PROPOSED** RB battle rating changes

You should change the slow reload article on this vehicle, as of now I would call it a glass cannon

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Add optical rangefinder as a note, cuz it can cross snip with ease too

Poor 3.0s 🥀

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Lost all credibility wanting the T30 to move up. Play it first. The reload means it is a meme tank that is vastly inferior to the T34 and T29.

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The T30 is incredible and pretty much easy mode lol. It’s easily on par or better than the T34.

The T29 has been lowkey undertiered at 7.0 for a while now.

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Mobile Land-based Phalanx Weapon System: Phalanx on Wheels This would be great 8.7 material

That was made before the updated reload rate.

Forgot about this lol.

It’s no worse than a Tiger II fighting 5.7s, unlike the 5.7s, most 3.0s can actually frontally kill the KV-1E with somewhat skillful aiming.

No need. Good light tank with SPAA capabilities.

No effin way this slow, huge and unarmored box deserves a BR raise. Its literally worse than Tiger H1, how is it okay with tiger e?

Dont see why, dont see why not. It wont change anything tbh.

i can relate to that

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh… maybe?

No way you just said that nonsense. Worst 6.7 gun (except maybe a T-44 which isnt in any way 6.7 material either), good armor and meh mobility. No way its just a step of BR worse than Foch or as good as Tiger 105.

Literally same as T26E5. Worst armor of heavy tank at the rank with decent pen but bad damage.

literally worst HE launcher on the rank. It deserves a BR drop with that 35 seconds of reload, not raise. And literal useless APHE that does not pen the 34s usually.

I can relate to that, tho the gun capabilities arent in favor of that decision.

I can relate to that

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh. Have thou played it? Its one good tank with a very limited options of use.

bruh. Aint even a good joke.

why tho? Weak armor, bad aim speed.

So now to make VK change viable.

Dont get me wrong, but in 15 years of WT Tiger 1s were 5.3-5.7 and never needed changes. Thy are one balanced tanks for sure. 5.7 is pretty decent because of that.

literaly taken from air. Thy dont perform much better than A or G, therefore no need.

so then. lets return the “BMP-1 and T-54 against the tiger 2” reality? honestly…

Can relate to that

Dont see much reason. It performs well with leopard 1, and does not seem much OP with the turret shreaded with 50 cal

huh? is this a joke? “An equivalent of IT-1” without shoot-on-move, with much limited aim angles?

I can relate to that, tho i think this ammo underperforms already

without decent anti-tank ammunition to a cannon?

I can relate to that considering its sizes and rockets.

does not seem any fair, plus useless as will be only tank at the rating.

eh? Its worse than both german 34E and soviet 34E

as much as i will love to kick babies at that ranks, i find this stupid. KV-1E is extremely strong tank, even at 4.3. Especially considering Churchull 3 at 4.3.

i can relate to that. KV-1E at 4.3 with better armor and Kv-1ZIS with worse armor and better gun seems fair to me.

maybe it sitting at 6.0 is too much, i agree. But i would consider not touching the reload as it still is pretty powerful tank.

should have been from the start

I can see this happening but not sure if its needed

i can relate to that

does not seem fair neither for 6.7s nor for leopard 1s.

Arguably its not a competitor to T-62M1 and T-55AM1. So i dont think its a good idea. We must change it to 1984s mod with “Otrazheniye” kit that will make it same as T-72A.

Does not need it? It does not perform that well tbh. The Radkampfwagen 90 is better as speedy light tank.

mostly useless so also no idea why change it.

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh. It has perfect armor for such a br.

already pent up pretty much, especially after survivability nerfs.

so when underperforming tank got a buff, it should now be nerfed? Perfect…

but good aim speed and mobility. Maybe it does need it, maybe it does not, im not sure.

uh. it is already 8.0

hell nah. Badly armored, with ridiculous reload and straight up bad ammo.

without proper APDS belt.

5.0 seconds to match Abrams M1 would be nice

as with all those 6.7 HEATFS launchers… I dont get them so i dont think they should move.

150mm armor?

excuse me, 50cal proof? with 10mm steel turret?
Tho it may need to be up a bit…

funny thing is that it isnt.

asking for it

tho it is already higher than MEPHISTO. DOes it need further? Doubt it

uuugh. Its already a bit high considering its the only sherman to get killed with german air 20mm cannon. Plus its aim angles, speed and stabilization are bad. Id rather see it moving down.

same as M50, its situative AF and not so much performing good as has like 5* of sight movement before you need to move hull.

questionable. I dont see you perform well with this neither with BMP-1. Gun is pretty bad as it has grenade launcher trajectory.

its quite the same as Gepard in most terms. It moves a bit faster tho it has less chances of surviving a battle.

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Besides the proposed BR change and if it deserves it or not, hard disagree on this bit.

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i would rather it lumped in with a SAM

it gotta go up to 8.7 at least

IT-1 should move down imo

the 105 is better than the 120 lmao

6s IMO as it doesn’t have an 85" turret ring, a 76" instead, same as the leopards

yep, those are basically P2W tiger h1 rn

those conveniently placed tracks around the cupola also contribute

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I dont really see why. It has huge size, slow movement, old HEAT shots that arent even FS. Its strong with reload time sure, but making it 8.7? Id rather play Leopard 1a1 and T-62. I dont see any reason this prototype must be this high.

I also dont think it should, it is quite enjoyable where it is

yeah thats so funny about the Conqerror. The 120 does so little damage that 105 feels like bigger cannon

well it also does not have 120mm cannon as leopards, so…

I didnt catch if you agreed with me or disagreed, so i want to ask you to rephrase this pls :,3

KV220 to 6.3 and increase its reload speed to ~6.7s.
Keep in mind this is all while a lot of the good 6.7s / 7.0s get moved up.

Its armour is incredibly good when angled, even being able to tank long 88 with the hull.

The turret cheeks are extremely angled, with the large breech eating all the shrapnel and spalling.

The cupola is impossible to penetrate reliably other than with rounds greater than ~160mm, which is only useful if the round has enough explosive filler to do a reasonable amount of damage.
Panther gun is pretty much pointless, Sherman 76 is also quite pointless, even the Tiger’s.
M82 shot works fairly well from what I remember, though.

The only place you can kill a KV-220 from the front is via turret ring, though that’s quite a small weakspot.

There’s NO reason why this should be the same BR as the 75mm Jumbo, let alone be allowed to face 4.7s.

Keep T20 at 6.3… there’s a good reason why it’s used to statpad.

It’s smaller and has MUCH better acceleration than the T25. (Arcade is a bit of a different story, though…)
If anything, lower the T25 to 6.0 since its armour is abysmal for the most part, with no stab, mobility, or good reload to compensate for it.
Hell, even the T1E1 90mm is more responsive than it, and apparently it would still be 0.3 BRs lower than it for what it effectively is just as usable armour.

The T-34-85 STP is at the same BR despite having a worse reload, worse gun depression, worse acceleration, bigger silhouette, and worse reverse speed… for a bettee round, two rear smoke barrels and slightly more usable armour.
Put the T-34-85 STP at 6.0 too.

Why are you moving up the M551 (76) but not the fully-stabilized Centurion Mk.2?

Well you have played them and it doesnt seem like they need a buff at all do they ?


You are doing just fine with them. Statsharks gives ratings and colors based on the median stats of the said vehicle. Most bad to okayish tanks get a blue rating with 2kd since the tank performs bad most of the time. 2kd being just green on the kv1s shows that the median stats are rather high and the tank is doing fine.

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Either that or most players using them don’t know how to use them properly.
For example, Abrams.

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Also even without these stats its like common knowlage to know that kv1s are seal clubbers lmao. Wanting to drop them down is insane

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The only one I can sorta understand is the 4.7 KV-1 considering it has to face 5.7s such as the Tiger H1.

Its performance / armour is similar to the KV-1E from my experience.

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I mean 3.7 and god forbid 3.3 against kv1 tho