Ground-only gamemode without CAS?

I want to talk about gamemodes in game,recent problems and possible solutions.
For a long time some part of community wants to see gamemode without CAS in War Thunder. I cannot say im the part of it, but the problem of CAS always interested me. Gaijing is trying to balance CAS and ground vehicles but i cant they they are balanced atm or ever have been balanced…
This topic is about a ground-only mode, where we could see only tanks and IFVs, without any CAS and SPAAs. I think that it would be not bad idea in terms of game atm and it can be added.
Why Gaijing haven’t add it yet and don’t want to? Because more gamemodes gonna separate the playerbase more and it is bad for the matchmaker since there are fewer players in same gamemode and it would take longer to find match for players.
My suggestion for this is to add a system like in COD or some other games. The player can choose few gamemodes and searching for them at the same time and which gamemode will have enough players to make a match faster will be the one player gonna play. That way player can take standart GRB(with CAS) and GRB without CAS and start searching. If there are enough players to make a match for standart GRB-player could play it and so on.
Also there are some recent CAS and SPAA problens which cozing me(and i think not only me) to think about gamemode without them.
What do you think about this and what is your opinion?
Edit:
I want to add since not everyone could understand my point. I DONT want to delete CAS from ground games as whole, my point is to add a new, separate gamemodes that won’t have CAS AND SPAAs. It can be temperary mode at first, like event, for 1-2 weeks, and then devs could see players feedback and then decide to add it ir not.Thanks for undestanding

[Would you like to see ground-only gamemode in-game?]
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also because CAS is an important balancing factor, with gaijins not great map designs if somebody manages to get into a strong position sometimes the only way to get them out is with a bomb

and removing planes just displaces all the SPAA

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Agreed, but this is Gaijing’s issue to make atleast normal map for ground matches… Most part of maps (if not all) are unplayeble for top tier and mid tier imo coz when i see this maps i don’t even know how to stay alive on them more then 2minutes because they are so bad

Heavy tanks (+in an up tier).
Spawn camping.
Spaa are useless
Shit ass maps
You would need a new br set for tank only.
Too much work for the dev team.

I voted No.

Learn how to deal with CAS. Use support vehicles. Use SPAA.

(And no, top-tier doesn’t represent the whole game - SPAA is more than enough against CAS in every other BR)

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CoD is terrible and has been since 2005 (CoD2). While getting its ass handed to it by Battlefield 6 right now. A game that allows jets to donk on tanks.

The problems you named is already in game and devs dont even mind to fix them… If we talking about maps, spawn camping, and heavy tanks overteared… Useless SPAA… Yes, ground only shoud be without them… In top tier SPAAs is one braincell gameplay with only 1 button to click, at liw tier they can’t do shit if pilots isn’t stupid, at mid tier about 7.0 to 9.3 they are stupidly op… Itpsv, Za35, falcon and others which just absurdly op against ground and are still not bad against air… I would like to have mode without them┐( ̄ヘ ̄)┌

Yeah, its shit, but again, the system is not that bad discion, or we can made something from older COD like COD4 were players were vouting for maps… maybe then gaijing will start thinking about their map-design when players will play 0 times on stupidly big and useless maps…

How to deal with CAS when you are in maus? Maybe i just don’t know…
About SPAAs…
I DON’T SEE WHERE THE HELL THEY DEAL WITH CAS ENOUGH???
The thing i always see is CAS eliminates half a team after 2 minutes from start and NOONE taking SPAA and just spawn second tank, die and leave from match… IS IT NORMAL FOR YOU? For me defenetly N0…
And this problem isn’t only at top tier if you don’t.

i know what a point of cas and why gaijin put cas in grb
its okay cuz if tank get a strongest position its really hard to clear with ground vehicle

but cas need to nerf in every br especially around 6 and top tier
cas should not to b a key for succes but cas should be different way to counter tank

the example of balance br grb and cas is around 8-9 when gepard and the gang can kill cas easily
(but this br has autocannon aphe and rat problem)

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There is a ground mode with limited CAS called ground arcade

I voted yes, but thing Gaijin will never do it, because jets exists in GROUND mode only for one reason - force pilots to buy prem jets.

We all understand that Ground mode is a mode about point-capture, and at low to mid ranks I’ve played a lot of battles where more than half of my team has switched to jets and leaved me alone in ground without any support and possibility to cap the point, so when I see a lot of ally jets in the air - I dont have any motivation to continue playing this battle because we’ll lose.

The bast way I think is to do as in Battlefield - reduce max aircrafts (whether jet or a heli) in the air to 2-3.
And I think Gaijin should Increase the number of points to pick the aircraft. It should be like a reward for your good gaming. It’s not normal that today on low, mid ranks it is enough to get an assist and you are able to pick the aircraft with bombs.

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Even i vote yes but it not going to happen didn’t try to disrespect your opinion or anything but truth is Gaijin not going to add tank only mode that for sure .

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Unlike this game SPAA BF6 SPAA have bigger impact against jet and heli play it right can make life of pilot harder or out right not make them able to farming kill
This incompetence game on the otherhand even braindead MI-28 pilot can deal with any spaa.

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If Gaijing will realy lock max number of air vehicles in game for 3 and increase points cost then im fine with CAS. But im not fine with CAS at its recent state. As you said, it is NOT normal that player with 1 assist or kill or cap can spawn a CAS and eliminate half of team in 1 minutes after start…

I undestand this… But maybe there will be some miracle and they will do that ヽ( ´ー`)ノ

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CAS isn’t a balancing factor for anything as you can deal with ground forces with your own ground forces.

You could still play AAs in the old GRB.

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Simply untrue.

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GRB has had planes for its entire existence, since closed beta even

right so if im playing 6.7 america, what can i do to a maus thats in a good position?

skill issue

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Okay and ?
No one would touch GRB anyways.

M109 or another howitzer.

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