Why does that look suspiciously like a drawing
Yes it was, considering we did purchase them and even have serial numbers (NZ6521 for example was an F-16A-15AM). It’s a hell of a lot more than what the F-16AJ and Yak-141 was at any rate. But yk, since they’d go to Britain Gaijin didn’t want that.
F-16AJ, yes, it was a mistake
Yak-141 at least flew. no RNZAF operated F-16 ever flew.
and to be honest. unless the serial number is actually on the jet. it doesnt really mean anything. if USAF gives russia a couple hundred million and assigned an Su-57 a USAF serial number (but never operated the Su-57) does that make it a USAF jet?
If Russia agrees to the deal then yes, I believe it does. If I go on trade me (or whatever you use there) and purchase something, is it still theirs until I pick it up? Even though I paid for it?
but once the order gets cancelled? like what happened with the F-16’s
and werent they only supposed to be leased?
I don’t remember exactly I’m only going off of recollection you might be right, but at the time Britain’s best fighter was the Phantom FGR.2, and Japan’s was the F-4EJ Kai, in my logic that should have let it at least be a suggestion considering they got the made up F-16AJ. Now I could see why they reject it but I wish they would still add it, there’s only 2 New Zealand vehicles atm.
was the tornado F3 not added in that update?
well. as far as proportional numbers of aircraft ingame to possible additions, especially for non-subtree country, thats not bad
Tornado F.3 is a sidegrade to the FGR.2
was still a top tier fighter for britain
and isnt f3 better than phantom? better missiles, more countermeasures, more advanced airframe
better sidewinders, more but worse CMs, faster but can’t maneuver
they buffed tornado FM no?
When it was added it was more than useless, and it’s still underperforming afaik.
I h8 being US main because of takes like these…
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The R-DARTER was adjusted from a non-official document as it was as taken from a write-up of the J39 in SAAF. So non-statistical “bufs” and “nerfs” do happen.
Also, from standing behind a SAAF J39C and looking at its payload and ordnance count I can personally confirm the game is not correct.
Same goes for the Superhind as I sat in the cockpit of that. Only problem is getting official documentation of it since ATE was bought out.
US top tier jets:
F-16
- Quite literally outrates everything
- Decent BVR capability
F-15C/E
- 6-8 AIM-120 missiles
- Ridiculously fast in a straight line
- one of the best BVR jet(s)
F-14A/A IRIAF/B
- Chunky Phoenix and just recently Fakour-90 missiles
- Loads of countermeasures, almost similar to Gripen
Over to the Gripen:
- 6 missiles, 4 of which can/has to be RB 99
- Every few months flight performance gets degraded because why not (read: new sources has come to light claiming it is in fact over performing)
- Light, Delta canard so one circle performance is much better than American counterparts (as it should be…)
American top tier jets needs to kill before the merge. You can’t really dogfight (until F-22 anyway) a jet that can kill you in 1-2 turns minimum if used right.
Also, using the Gripen as a baseline when it’s cracked delta canard older brothers and soon to be Russian “physics is only a suggestion” uncle is soon to come in the game is hilarious
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Only on the B, the A’s should get their USN countermeasure pods
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For you the F/A18 is what if a not great dogfighter?
It’s a bit irritating to me that if one of the jets is buffed, which is not American, then you immediately start crying for the nerf.
Are you saying that America should be the top best dogfighter too? (best bvr jet (F15E has been dominating the matches for half a year, the best). But in all flight characteristics America should be the best, the top 1.
You don’t take into account that the Gripen can only carry 4 amraams and 2 Aim9m, and its radar is mid.
Unlike the F-18 which can carry 10 amraams and is among the top 5 dogfighter jets.
The 1 vs 1 dogfighting ability, which the Gripen is best at now, is just one feature.
You can’t exploit it in an average air rb match. Other factors will influence whether you die or not and how many kills you get.
Yay, more American main crying.
Before I say what I’ll say next, please keep in mind that I DON’T say this as an argument in favor of the US getting a buff. The US is more than fine as they currently are in game.
I just want to say, taking 10 amraams will fuck over your dogfighting capabilities hard. You only have 4 DL channels meaning that you can only ahoot 4 of them at long range. Meaning you still have to haul 6 amraams until you get within 16km, so you’ll risk getting in a close range fight while either being in worse position/energy or still carrying 6 BVR missiles.
Absolutely! I prefer 6x120s on the 18C Late, it does not weigh you down as much. To the OP…the 18C is one of the Best in close fighters, this new AoA limit switch really depends on who can manage their optimal turn speed better in the merge! This new mechanic really makes a bunch of fighters that could not fight in close VERY dangerous now :) can’t wait for this to go live!
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