The hornet I can agree with going to 14.0 at minimum because let’s be honest no hornet is 14.3 material with that performance unless they get a missile buff(which won’t happen)
and I have experienced the same, should every Aim-9M carrier drop 0.3 BR as a result of what is clearly very very buggy behaviour?
If I can get into a close range engagement maybe, I am being nuked by Su-30SM2s and J-10s consistently.
9ms exist at 13.0 you do realize. They aren’t as difficult to deal with as you think.
what makes it better?
Yes but a 14.3 at 14.0 with missiles that are horrible? 70 missiles for 3 kills? Does that seem like a natural thing for you because I can assure you irl a 120 would not miss 67 times out of 70. In war thunder due to the way the 120 behaves it is worse than a 77-1, Mica, and other contemporary missiles at the moment.
Why 14.0 and not 13.7 like you want with gripen E. Its has worst flight model, no gimble radar, low speed and less counter measures. It literally worse than Gripen E
thats an AIM-120 issue not a gripen E issue
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Yes and due to gaijin who will most likely never fix it(because it isn’t Russian) we will continue to suffer
If gaijin does actually fix the 120 i can see that being after 5 years from now minimum
Aim-9Ms have always been rather niche, requiring the right set up to get meaningful value out of them.
I have previously gotten very good success using the Aim-9M on aircraft such as the Tornado Gr4 and Harrier Gr7, but in the past few months, and especialy in the past few weeks, I have had a number fail spectacuarly
for example:
Whilst Im on the fence whether I consider them true equals to the Magic II and R-73, and I do think they could do with a buff (several appropriates accepted 2+ years ago) their current performance in recent weeks has been an anomaly and not what I would consider standard for the missile. The IRCCM has been especially unreliable and the missile guidance has been equally buggy. I shall give the devs 2-3 weeks after returning for their anual holiday (which they should be soon™) before I start to form an opinion further on this matter
An example from early last year of Aim-9M working great
Have you tried 9Ls lately. Been seeing them ignore flares like a R73 over the past few days when I was grinding with my premium viggen. One example an F-18 flare dumped and turned and the 9L still killed him.
I have not, but I find 9L performance highly contexual
Yeah but they have definitely done something to the code for it from what I noticed. It wasn’t like that before a few updates ago.
Missile performance is all over the place at the moment, But I would not use that as sole justification for a single airframe to be reduced in BR when the identical weapons are used on a number of other aircraft.
I mean I would because knowing gaijin they won’t give it better missiles because ’they’d have to move it up in br’. They did the same thing and stated so with the F-14B then moved it up later without giving it its 9Ms(yes F-14B irl had 9Ms).
Okay?
So the Gripen E moves down to 13.7. Can the F-15s, Typhoons, etc join it?
They have the same missiles, the same problems?
Yeah I get your point. But what else can we do. It’s either nobody plays those planes at all or they get a missile buff. The likely option is the former(which is what gaijin wants because nobody playing them = no need to fix them).
64 vs 80 internal large calibre CMs ( I dont know if the Gripen E also gets the extra 12 standard CMs too either)
2 BOL vs 4 BOL
RWR and MAWS coverage is close enough to equal without looking too indepth.
By that logic Gripen C should be 14.0 at minimum as well(not counting the lack of Maws because it has never saved me)