Gripen E for italy?

Its not just about you, i try to keep up with any claims i make, if im wrong im wrong ill accept it, not like im infallible, regardless if i dont try to keep up my credibility it makes my voice less valid when trying to add to a topic. Call it personal respect i guess

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i don’t see why italy/japan wouldn’t get the e. japan through thailand es and italy thru brazil es. only reason i can see why they dont add it is that italy has eurofighter but italy had the gripen c b4 eurofighter and they still added euro so like

Italy has the EFT, they dont lack a 4.5 gen equivalent like Japan does. Additionally brazil shouldn’t become a sub of Italy it makes no sense.

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im pretty sure italy has some brazilian vehicles already, so they’re the prime canidate to get future brazilian stuff

They have Brazilian vehicles because they’re either Italian vehicles originally or were co developers. Im talking about the ghibli here since i dont remember other Brazilian vehicles but that logic that they would get Brazilian vehicles as a new addition makes about as much sense as the Netherlands being a swedish subtree. Its doesn’t make sense because thats not how it works.

Additionally Italy has a full 5 line air tree they dont need a new sub nation, Hungary and Romania fill up everything they need. Sweden still lacks a 5th line even with a sub tree. (Not saying Brazil for sweden, makes no sense either. Brazil for a latin america tt makes far more sense.)

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Romania has only the OSA in the tech tree. If Romania was implemented, we would have the Abrams

It had a better engine, if it didn’t, it was supposed to, and the HMD, I guess ARH missiles were added a bit later than I remember, I always remembered them being added before the JAS39C for Sweden for some reason.

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arent you confusing that with the ARH beta test? SA Gripen got to participate with darters in that one but no swedish planes.

fair enough.

theres single brazilian aircraft in the game, AMX, a plane they codeveloped with Italy.

brazilian AMX is in the same situation as F-14 IRIAF and Kfir C10.

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They have a few others via premiums and older event vehicles

this here dosent exist?
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why would italy need the abrams?

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That’s Hungary, genius. While I too hate the Dictate of Trianon, unfortunately Romania exists outside of Hungary. The Romanian “tech tree” has a bunch of prop plane premiums, the OSA, and the MiG 29 Sniper premium.

Wow, a couple of useless props, event vehicles no one can get, a copy and paste jet with zero differences from the tech tree MiG 29, and a terrible SPAA. Wowzers.

You can say useless all you want but they have their place in the TT as vehicles that effectively bolster the existing lineups. Or fill mssing gaps, Romania does exactly what it needs to to get Italy into a better spot and im perfectly fine with its implementation, its no different from many other similar premium tree additions like Denmark and India.

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Ariete bad, Abrams good. Romanian Abrams when?

Italy has the best leo2 in the game
which is better than the Abrams

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Okay, and? Russia gets best CAS and had the best SPAA for two years (and the Pantsir still holds up). Sweden has arguably the best Leopard, while also getting “Russian bias” T-80s, making it a very versatile nation for ground. Just because Italy has one good tank, that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t get another. If Romania is actually in Italy, they should get the Abrams.

You’ll have to fight the US players on that end, personally id rather the Ariete get their armor corrected since its long overdue alongside side their Barrel fired drones as a unique ability but thats on gaijin.

You’re expecting Gaijin to fix a minor nation. Good luck, they still refuse to move the OTOMATIC down because “Italy needs a top tier loadout” but refuses to put in anything Italy or Hungary uses.