Poland mentioned 💪💪💪
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that’s a you issue, i am talking about the game in total not whatever someone is doing, the numbers never lie
yes because the Israeli TT is the epitome of uniqueness
armor isn’t everything, it has a 5sec autoloader and amazing speed
Incorrect, they exclusively used the Aim-9 sidewinder. They acquired the Magic 2 and later Matra 530F/D for exclusive use on the Mirage 2000EG.
Both currently has 4x Aim-9s on the dev server, only the Mirage F1s is “special” and the 2000’s is standard.
They just added more aircraft for one nation in one update than ever before. Glass half empty?
Museum pictures are not typically allowed for sourcing, as anything can be displayed in front of any aircraft, and some munitions which can technically be mounted cannot be used. In service images are accepted however.
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“The numbers don’t lie” of course when it works your way.
That’s the point, if one seeks uniqueness in vehicles, and not certain nation, they can go play France with the same Rafale, Leo and much more uniqueness.
“Armor isn’t everything” they say until somebody suggests removing it from T-series then it becomes a big deal. Well then why not to add it if it’s not everything? “Just shot heads” Dumbledore says calmly, there’s a big difference when somebody has to aim at certain spots and other can shoot literally anywhere. You can be brainead as soviet and be useful but if you’re playing MN you won’t survive a second. Also what is “armor isn’t everything”’ "s relationship with realism that gaijin wants with them “Abrams hull isn’t that good”, do you think they’ll do the same to SU57 when it comes out like they did with Abrams?, me neither. Genuinely an NPC argument.
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whatever dude go play USSR if you believe so mush on armor
Good deflecting, people do play soviets, that’s why top tier is unplayable after 11.3. It’s so annoying when you have to sweat while the opponent doesn’t. If USSR TT is as bad as snubs on forums describe it there is truly no real reason for people complaining about it, majority of playerbase playing it amount other things. Just like Hillary said, people who complain about bias are basket of deplorables.
Yes israel is very unique, or at least is supposed to be, we still have plenty of unique modifications for the Magach that haven’t been added yet, our main line MBT’s have a front mounted engine and (at least they should have) extremely heavy frontal armor,
We have a heavily protected IFV with the Namer’s and Eitan, Gaijin just needs to fix all of them! Because their current implementation is just disgraceful
If you think israeli isn’t “unique” just have a look at the Suggestions for the israeli tech tree, and you’ll see that we have A LOT of better options than 2 copy pasted AA’s and a generic Leopard 2
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Unfortunately that’s a big part of why subtrees are added
They often use imported, or slightly modified imported, designs from other countries, especially Russia, Germany, the US, and Britain
It’s easier for them to tweak existing models from those countries, than it is to add unique domestic designs
Once a subtree gets added, unless it’s South Africa, expect two things:
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a sharp decrease in the rate of domestic designs being added to the host tree;
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a very slow role of unique subtree vehicles
But
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Yet South Africa also has those issues, and more. Just take a look at how it replaced the UK’s light vehicles. And as seen with the first UK-operated light after ~6+ years, it wasn’t to give them good vehicles, as it was considered OP, and the next one was added with everything broken (Fox and Scimitar).
Sadly, people are too blind to the idea that “unique = good” to understand that every issue with sub-trees can be traced to South Africa. There is a reason why most British players would tell you to avoid/drop South African vehicles as much as possible: that is the same reason why they are also the most “pro-C&P” users here.
Stuff like the Aussie Abrams had the majority of the push back/problems with its addition coming from US mains; well, UK mains celebrated them. Not to say there weren’t British mains unhappy, but they were a minority.
But that has gotten me thinking about how each sub-tree is doing. I wouldn’t say South Africa is the worst (it had been getting one vehicle a year since it’s addtion, iirc, but with 2 updates left this year will have to see if that comes to an end), that likely has to go to Finland (can’t recall their last vehclie and 90% sure it was preium) Switzerland (nothing since it’s addtion, but that what happens when in a tree with no room and only needed it for one vehclie). India is doing ok due to the Ajrun, but even domestic additions from them are unpopular (even if more popular than most options) outside the Commonwealth crowd, with any other wants for them being those focused on India (and 9/10 times would have wanted them elsewhere). Hungry is hard to place with the big vehicle dumb they got earlier this year. Both Norway and Australia are too new (even if Australia has had a good run before becoming one), and Greece is this update. Now the sub-tree that is doing the best has to be BeNeLux, which has been seeing more than one addition a year, which is rare for sub-trees outside of a big drop for a mode/BR range for them.
Why this is: not sure I’d say money talks, but we’d see more Swiss things with how much more German plays whale (which is why some nations, despite asking (and being loud at that), for a home haven’t gotten one). It could be that the Swiss premiums didn’t see more buyers than normal compared to other premiums for the host tree; well, the BeNeLux did see more buyers compared to the average for its host tree. My other thought is that the BeNeLux was high up there for how common it’s tree was requested as a new Allied/NATO tree, even if not holding a candle to the wants of nations like Poland (as an eastern/WARSAW nation.)
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God save us all.
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So true.
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Where is my SIGMA 155
Israel realising it will propably surpass 20 M48/60 variants with greece being another major operator of the platform
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Hey @gromvoiny,
If you guys would do this, could you take a look at the rest of the skins as well, including warthunder marketplace skins? For example, due to the additions of the game, there is a skin for the Finnish Leopard 2a6 called “Trots op onze jongens”, while later the Dutch tech trees has been added, making it more sense for this skin to go for the Dutch Leopard 2A6 (French tech tree). The models are different, so I can tell why it would be not a simple copy paste job, but maybe possible to look into it?
We don’t do such changes to marketplace items, the country they belong to is an inherent thing determining the trade value.
Can I cope to you about this?
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/YrJ6xF7gjdEV
Maybe there will be a reconsideration considering the awnser they gave is simply not true compared to every available source I could find