The F4E Terminator 2020 dispite it’s name is not a 4.5 gen aircraft.
Edit: Neither is the AUP, they are heavily upgraded Phantoms.
f16 block52/+,rafale and F16 viper
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If you look at the bulk of what I was talking about, it included none of those.
yep and i agreed that they dont need more F4 but they need 4.5 gen aircraft
Then why even talk to me? Personally I try to aviod top tier because it isn’t as fun as Fox 1s and 2s. Modernized Gen 3s like the ICE and AUP are pushing it but unless Gaijin just hates that vehicle(s) for whatever reason a F4E Terminator and AUP should not be faceing E2Ks, F-16Is, F-15EXs, etcs. I made it pretty clear I was not talking about the most modern tech.
yea i said even without the f4 they still exist stuff to be added from greece
I don’t even know what we are talking about anymore.
me too
@Smin1080p_WT any chances we will get some Greece or Cyprus additions next update? Looking forward to some fillers for Israel TT. And it’s probably to early to ask this but ya never know🙏 (probably will be later in the year)
its a national holiday in Greece, so it would be perfect to say same think today
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Would be very cool. I sadly feel though that they probably won’t cause it is gaijin after all. I’m very happy though that they are talking for the additions of adding them. And people can be mad that it is being added to Israel but they do have joint military operations together and strong ties. Plus gaijin added the addition to change flags for nation representation. (I personally would have liked chile to be added instead) but I’m not complaining as like I said, I will love any addition/fillers for Israel as it’s my favorite tt.
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I hope they’re gonna the VBCI Philoctète to both Greece and France, as it is a french export
yea but its just a proposal for the Greek army it never get tested by the Greek side as far as i know, it is just a proposal for an IFV the same with the kf-41 so Greece cant take it, but it would be a cool addition in France
An actual working and close relationship between each other that lasted for a long time. Chile and Israel having strong ties with each other since when Pinochet got into power in 1973 and lasted since. This further manifested in the Chilean and Israeli Military Industrial complexes working with each other and a lot of Chile’s weapons are modified with the help of Israeli expertise. Also Chile will greatly improve the variety of vehicles in the Israeli TT that they have some connection to which a Hellenic subtree fails to deliver. The last thing Israel needs is bloating the TT with another 500 M48 & F-16 variants that are purely copy n paste.
In contrast. Even though there is a connection between Greece and Israel, It is A: a more recent development and B: there is only very few vehicles that were upgraded by Israeli expertise and/or use Israeli weapons/weapon systems. Mainly due to prior to this development Israel’s preferred partner in the Eastern Mediterranean region is Turkey. Which their relationship soured though greatly is a recent development. Azerbaijan is the other close partner of Israel and unlike Turkey they still maintain a close relationship. Greece still not only overwhelmingly use weapons of Austrian, Spanish, French, German, American and even of Dutch & Polish origin than of Israeli origin. Add Yugoslavia and the USSR for Cyprus as well.
Yes they have no love for the Iranians or the Turks that doesn’t mean they’ll automatically side with Israel, this is shown by the fact that they’ll prefer to side with the French over the Israeli’s for their defense.
As i alluded too even if you take Geography into consideration Israel even has better options to choose from than Greece and Cyprus mainly in the form of Azerbaijan. So even the geography excuse which is already stupid to begin with doesn’t even hold much water.
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imo the only Greek vehicles Israel should get are the ones they got involved in, same for other nations stuff like the Sabrah light tank. It does not take much to see that Israel did not contribute as much as other countries (like Germany or France for example) with vehicles due to Israel doing that only more so recently with Greece.
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? were greece has the capacity to fill the gaps
greece isnt only m48 and f16
isnt big enough
greece use manly USA and German weapons and Cyprus USSR stuff
France doesn’t need another subtree
Greece and Cyprus are closer geographically than Azerbaijan to Israel
That is not what he is saying…
Otherwise, Greece should either not be a tree at all and be scattered in other tree they have link to or be in something like Turkey/Greece/Spain tree ~
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the Greco/Iberian suggestion is good but i still dont see why Greece isnt a good sub tree for Israel, they are close geographically they have excellent diplomatic and military ties, and Greece Cyprus can offer a lot in the Israeli TT
greece isnt only m48 and f16
Where ever Greece has more than m48’s and f16’s doesn’t really matter since Gaijin will only add M48’s and F16 because they have a bad habit of adding in copy n paste vehicles to fill in the gaps instead of adding in actually unique vehicles or unique vehicle upgrades
Greece and Cyprus are closer geographically than Azerbaijan to Israel
Doesn’t matter since they are in the same region
Azerbaijan isnt big enough
Maybe for Naval. For the rest of the lines this is otherwise flat out false, Azerbaijan has more than enough for a subtree. Azerbaijan also use a lot of Israeli equipment such as Sandcat armed with SPIKES, Barak 8’s, Iron Dome, ATMOS-2000, IAI built recce drones such as the Heron and Searcher and Sa’ar 62 class patrol boats to name a few. Even a lot of their weapons that they inherited from the USSR were upgraded by the USSR, their T-72’s were modified by Elbit, same for their BTR-70’s, they also have an unique prototype variant with a 30mm cannon (BTR-70M). Elbit is one of the firms in modernizing Azerbaijan’s fleet of Shilka’s. Their BMP-2’s were upgraded by NIMDA, Azerbaijani Mi-17’s were modified to use LAHAT ATGM’s.
Of course there’s going to be plenty of Soviet Slop in there too but also some unique vehicles (ZKDM Armoured Car) and unique upgrades (Su-25’s with Israeli and Turkish secondary weapons, as well as the previously mentioned BTR-70M) Azerbaijan also operates Su-25KM’s which were co-developed by Elbit with Kartvelia. Naval as previously stated is a weakspot and this is an area Chile would be a great compliment to an Israeli TT will be. Even there they can still contribute and again some of their ships are Israeli made. Chile is also at the end of the day is still the best Subtree for Israel. It’s just Azerbaijan is another good option
? were greece has the capacity to fill the gaps
I never said about filling in gaps, I was talking about vehicle variety
Greece has only 1 m48 that could get in game
and what unique aircraft can Chile or Azerbaijan provide?
NO? Azerbaijan is a Caucasian country while Israel is middle eastern
so copy paste too??
so Greece can offer German, American and soviet while Azerbaijan can only soviet. Azerbaijan is better for a Turkish TT