Oh yeah, like the France has been abused in the last year.
“Me when I lie” proceeds to use the most biased way to balance vehicles in the game lmaooo
Player performance =/= tank performance
Here are two identical tanks found in both France and Germany

Curious … It’s almost as if, on average, Germany players are much worse than France’s …
Surely that means Leclerc is overpowered in comparison to Leopard 2A5 🤣
That argument also falls apart when looking at the 2a5nl which was included in the screenshot, but go off queen. In my opinion the Leclercs are perfectly fine the way they are right now.
A 0.2 difference in Kill to Spawn ratio is not telling of your point, sure more germans play it, but they also have managed to sustain a similar K/S and K/D to the ‘french super race’
Nevermind the fact that it’s one of the most recently added MBTs to the tree, thus meaning people have to suffer to get the modifications I guess ?
Right, let’s ignore the 5% winrate difference 🤣 Arguing with subpar Germany players about vehicles they never played is always a treat
I’ve played just about everything but germany over the last 2 years what are you on about.
About 5 matches in the leopard 2k is all i’ve done in over 2 months
This thread is about Leclerc.
Germany players, always thinking everything revolves around them …
Werent you literally the first who brought up a comparison between the 2 playerbases?
Once again, I am not a ‘Germany Player’ and my argument holds more value than your pathetic dick measuring competition with stats
+20mm penetration?
Are you serious?
The topic is about giving leclercs DM53 lvl of ammunition
The OP literaly names DM43 himself in his initial comparision.
Of course it as an result gets compared to the other vehicles with the same lvl of rounds to justify its addition or not.
This has nothing to do with german players jesus.
Its just the best comparision dont u even understand that discussion is needed for that?
We could have named sweden, italy, UK as well as comparision.
Hell literaly 2a5NL that was used is in the french tree. Its just germany used cause the german ammunition is the best comparison.
Dont play the victim here. Else we could just start germany needs DM83 threads, but nobody is allowed to compare it to other vehicles in the game.
The players should just listen to it as a fact. Buddy listen to yourself first and think for a moment before you write sth.
I asked people I know that are hyper-focused on top tier tanks, and they agree with you that the Leclerc SXXI is Leo 2A6 equivalent and not 2A5. They contend that a DM53 equivalent shell brings improved firepower but still makes it 2A6 equivalent and still worse than the 2A7.
DM53 would make them pretty much better than 2A6 in every way that isn’t turret armor.
They simply don’t need better ammo in this point in time.
If shard is around the same as DM 53 in terms of performance i don’t really see they issue
Most things DM 53 can pen so can DM 43 realistically it would just give the Leclerc more post pen damage then anything else and not really an issue
are there any better Russian 125mm rounds?
Does the vacuum count?
I dont know enough about that round
He probably meant for the tanks we have in game rn. Vacuum is T14 only iirc
I have no idea if its T-14 only, honestly.
I just know it exists
I disagree, it would bring about improved firepower but changes literally nothing else, and currently the OFL 120 F1 is more than sufficient in dealing with most in game threats since the weak spots don’t change, you don’t change the shooting areas.
With that said, I do think the Leclerc SXXI is somewhere in between a 2A6 and a 2A7 even in its current state, giving it SHARD or DM53 or what not wouldn’t change that imo.
LMAO
how can you say that with the rafail